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    How to manipulate video with sound in Izzy?

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    • J
      JetJaguar last edited by

      @leben

      Where would you insert Voxengo in the signal flow within Isadora?  It is a live capture. Just use Sound Input actor _before_ Sound Frequency Watcher? Problem is live input is coming through channel 1\.  That is not a choice in Sound input but my built in microphone (which is what live input is set to does come up within Sound input).  Problem is there is no "out" for the audio on Sound input.  Must be my signal flow is wrong?
      AND how do I "see" the Voxengo's UI in Isadora?
      Finally to ALL.  My signal flow currently is:
       Live Input > Sound Frequency watcher.  Movie player > effect (bloom) > Projector.  
      Trigger or/ energy out of Sound Frequency Watcher (still playing with this one) going to the effect (bloom) input called "floor" parameter.  
      This all works fine.  BUT I want that same singular video to have multiple "effects" getting manipulated by the multiple Sound Frequency Watchers isolating different parts of my frequency spectrum.
      Thanks for leben and all in advance!

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      • jhoepffner
        jhoepffner last edited by

        Hello,
        I made a quick sample of frequency analysis in Max (coming from a synth…), a 16 band analyser sending 16 OSC signal to Isadora doing a color mix.
        Pictures and files are here.
        91f6df-capture-decran-2016-02-01-a-23.15.08.png 21c8e4-capture-decran-2016-02-01-a-23.15.30.png 0e1687-testmaxosc.zip

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        • J
          JetJaguar last edited by

          Forum.  I have another question.  Has anyone every used Sound Frequency Watcher to monitor a pre recorded and looping audio file?

          It seems SFW only works with Live input?

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          • Michel
            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

            @joejdrums

            You could use something like Soundflower or SoundSyphon to route the sound of the movie back into Isadora.

            Best Michel

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            • J
              JetJaguar last edited by

              That is a good idea.  I'll check it out.

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              • DusX
                DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                I have been experimenting with using Imitone ( https://imitone.com/ )

                It converts sound to midi.. lots of interesting potential.

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                • leben
                  leben last edited by

                  oooh, looks interesting, cheers for this : )

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                  • leben
                    leben last edited by

                    @DusX

                    Will Izzy pick this up in the input ports of the midi set up, as it would any piece of midi hardware?

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                    • DusX
                      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                      yes..  its just a midi source.

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                      • J
                        JetJaguar last edited by

                        Looks cool.  Thanks man

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                        • vanakaru
                          vanakaru last edited by

                          Meanwhile you can test existing audio to midi apps. Ones like WIDI has been around for some time. You can convert audio(singing into the mic) to midi in real time and play a synth accordingly.

                          http://www.widisoft.com/english/mp3-midi-products.html
                          Max/MSP can be set up as such as well
                          https://youtu.be/BiEBN17ZnNI
                          PD (PureData)
                          http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9816/audio-to-midi-in-pd

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                          • leben
                            leben last edited by

                            @jhoepffner

                            This Max patch looks interesting, I know nothing about max, I assume one would be able to tweak this patch so that is sends data from a live audio feed into izzy, instead of from a synth...
                            Thank you : )

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                            • vanakaru
                              vanakaru last edited by

                              Try WIDI it does it "out of the box". Just choose MIDI output "Isadora..."

                               You can handcraft this with Isadora as well: Frequency Watcer for each note(usable voice range is about 2 octaves - 24 notes)

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                              • J
                                JetJaguar last edited by

                                Thanks Vanakura.  I have looked into Imitone.  Very, very Beta.  Not too accurate as far as I can tell yet. I will look into the Max patch.

                                There is one thing I'm trying to understand with the audio conversion to midi.  This is for a live situation? I think I understand the live signal flow.  
                                Audio streams > gets converted to a binary code that Isadora reads and then can process via Sound Frequency Watcher.  
                                Yes?  
                                Also, Vanakura.  Would you happen to have have any patches you're able to pass along for Max or PD?  

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                                • vanakaru
                                  vanakaru last edited by

                                  look, this may help you

                                   http://www.ernestomalaca.com/uncategorized/audio-trigger-a-midi-puredata-ableton-live/

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                                  • K
                                    Klawrence last edited by

                                    So is there not a way that voices speaking can be translated into numbers for parameter changes?

                                    Or something that takes the audio decibel level and uses that to change parameters?

                                    Thanks, Kedar

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                                    • vanakaru
                                      vanakaru last edited by

                                      @Klawrence

                                      Isadora has actors for that - Sound Level and Sound Freq Watcher.

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                                      • vanakaru
                                        vanakaru last edited by

                                        @joejdrums

                                        I strongly suggest to try to study PD(PureData). It is really rewarding to create something with it. There is a patch that takes mic input and makes midi notes according to sound frequency. You may need help with getting fiddle to work / I have my question answered on their forum. Pure Fun.

                                        22f56b-mic-to-midi.png

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                                        • Armando
                                          Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                                          There is also a free app that works very well. Midi guitar 

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                                          • J
                                            JetJaguar last edited by

                                            @Vanakuru

                                            Thanks.. I have created some random note generating synths in PD.  It is cool.  Finding the time to go deeper is always the challenge.  I work with lots of software.  That said, here is an amazing book on Pure Data (lots of tutorial I've found online) but mainly on creating sound via computers.  I found the book on Amazon.
                                            Thanks as always for a robust and helpful forum.  I'm hoping to work on some of these suggestions this week.  Back with results when done.
                                            http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Sound-Andy-Farnell/dp/0262014416

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