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    • bonemap
      bonemap Izzy Guru last edited by

      Hi,

      There is this thread

      where @mark suggests using "the FFGLPremultiply actor after the Picture Player and before any other actors".

      cheers

      bonemap

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      • dbini
        dbini last edited by

        thanks for your suggestion bonemap, but, unfortunately, that hasn't helped

        John Collingswood
        taikabox.com
        2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
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        • keftaparty
          keftaparty last edited by

          @dbini : would you post a patch with your 2 images that I can try it here in the same conditions as you ?

          Best

          Mehdi

          ...
          Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
          www.toutain-lopez.com

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          • dbini
            dbini last edited by

            here it all is: press room.izz + white-house-press-briefing-roomALPHA1.png + 

            (other files are not uploading, but the offending png is here)

            John Collingswood
            taikabox.com
            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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            • dbini
              dbini @dbini last edited by

              (the image files are large because i don't yet know the resolution of the projector - i'm going to scale them down when i get in the studio on Thursday)

              john

              John Collingswood
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              • dbini
                dbini last edited by dbini

                I found a fix! i set the Video Image Processing preference to Smallest, rather than Default and it works. (although i don't know why it works, i'm glad it is solved)

                also: i used smaller versions of the image files. it still doesn't work with the originals.

                thanks for all your support on trying to solve this,

                john

                John Collingswood
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                2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
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                • keftaparty
                  keftaparty @dbini last edited by

                  @dbini Your patch works out of the box for me. Changing the video image processing pref. doesn't change anything for me, but I'm running windows version.

                  Maybe a bug report would be good. I have the feeling it should not react like this.

                  Best

                  Mehdi

                  ...
                  Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
                  www.toutain-lopez.com

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                  • dbini
                    dbini last edited by

                    changing the Video Image Processing pref to default also kills bonemap's frog, so its looking more like a bug, so to speak, rather than incompetent file management on my part.

                    John Collingswood
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                    • bonemap
                      bonemap Izzy Guru last edited by bonemap

                      Hi,

                      I just wonder if there is a setting somewhere that is causing the issue? I know the option under File/YUV enabled or disabled can cause issues with image files. YUV should be disabled, I believe.

                      It appears very unusual to me - I have never had that problem with photoshop files.

                      What Isadora version are you working with? I can’t recreate your issue with transparency using .psd file.

                      Cheers

                      Bonemap 

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                      • mark
                        mark @dbini last edited by

                        @dbini said:

                        I found a fix! i set the Video Image Processing preference to Smallest, rather than Default and it works.

                         If you have images with straight alpha, and you scale them, it messes up the alpha channel. That's the most likely explanation for this.

                        It would be very important that you use images and video clips that are exactly the same resolution for this process to ensure no scaling occurs. I would encourage you to do that. (Even if the podium doesn't occupy the whole image, just make it the same resolution as the other images.)

                        That said, there's several issues with handling alpha that we've solved in v2.6... coming any day now.

                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        • dbini
                          dbini last edited by

                          i'm currently using the new beta. the podium image was cut from the background image, but saved the same size as the background image, so everything was scaling the same way to default values (1280 x 800). Alpha looks to be Premultiplied (check the image above where a patchline hover shows the podium image at default res with premult alpha)

                          John Collingswood
                          taikabox.com
                          2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                          plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                          • mark
                            mark @dbini last edited by

                            @dbini

                            If you want to send me the media I can have a closer look.

                            Best Wishes,
                            Mark

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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