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    2.6 Crashing - Need to switch back to 2.5

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    • DusX
      DusX Tech Staff @Jamie Nesbitt last edited by

      @jamie-nesbitt

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        Jamie Nesbitt @DusX last edited by

        @dusxThansk Dusx. can you give me the non-usb version?

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        • JJHP3
          JJHP3 last edited by

          2.6 crashing: me too. Not to make a big deal about it, but submitted a bug report then reverted to 2.5.2. Kept it on my computer "just in case." Whew... show in a week. All is well with 2.5.2.

          MBP'21- M1-Max; Sonoma 14.7; Isadora: 4.0.7 (ARM) ---- artwork: terragizmo.net

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          • mark
            mark @JJHP3 last edited by

            @jjhp3

            Thanks for submitting the crash report along with your ticket, and sorry for the problem. 

            The crash you had is in the function that checks for a new version. Go to Isadora Preferences -> Warnings -> Automatically Check for New Versions and set it to Never.

            Best Wishes,
            Mark

            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            • mark
              mark @Jamie Nesbitt last edited by mark

              @jamie-nesbitt said:

              can you give me the non-usb version?

               I've just updated the "Where Can I Download Older Versions of Isadora" page.

              It now has v2.5.2 - click here to see the page.

              Best Wishes,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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              • mark
                mark last edited by

                Dear All,

                A further update. It seems that @Jamie-Nesbitt's bug may be related to playing HAP movies.

                In v2.6, we added a feature to allow AVFoundation (the system that replaced QuickTime) to play HAP on macOS.

                In past versions, even though you had chosen 'performance' in the 'optimize' input (which normally means "use AVFoundation"), Isadora would have reverted to using QuickTime to play your HAP movies. 

                But now, AVFoundation will play those movies, and there may be a bug.

                I'm investigating further right now.

                But if you are using HAP, and you want to continue using v2.6, for the moment I would set the 'optimize' input to 'interaction' to force the use of QuickTime when playing HAP movies.

                Best Wishes,
                Mark 

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                • mark
                  mark last edited by

                  @Michel @Skulpture @DusX @mc_monte @crystalhorizon 

                  Please take note of the above post.

                  Best,
                  M

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • gapworks
                    gapworks @mark last edited by

                    @mark dear mark , i really appreciate the new version of isadora. But a fun thing happened . i set up a file in isadora 2.6 and after 10 min isadora quits unexpected! downgrading to 2.2.2. works perfectly!

                    i attached the console logs for your information

                    Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                    • gapworks
                      gapworks @gapworks last edited by

                      @mark sorry the attachments did not work somehow :(  

                      Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                      • Michel
                        Michel Izzy Guru @gapworks last edited by

                        @gapworks

                        The upload should work when you zip it.

                        Best Michel

                        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                        • gapworks
                          gapworks @Michel last edited by

                          @michel i tried this ...maybe now it works  crash2.zip

                          Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                          • mark
                            mark @gapworks last edited by mark

                            @gapworks said:

                            dear mark , i really appreciate the new version of isadora. But a fun thing happened . i set up a file in isadora 2.6 and after 10 min isadora quits unexpected! downgrading to 2.2.2. works perfectly!

                            Go to Isadora Preferences > Warnings > Check for Updates and set the Automatically Check for New Versions popup to Never. Your crash is because of a feature we reinstated where Isadora checks for a new version periodically. That will solve your crash.

                            But can you help me with figure this out please?

                            1) Was your internet connection disabled when this happened?

                            2) Does your internet connection require a proxy?

                            3) Is there anything else unusual about your internet connection?

                            4) Do you use a VPN?

                            5) How do you have you Gatekeeper security settings? Do you have it set to allow "Mac App Store and Identified Developers" ?  

                            The console log you sent shows a lot of TCP/IP errors... this is probably related to the crash. Let me know the answers to the above questions as soon as you get a chance.

                            Best Wishes,
                            Mark

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            • mark
                              mark last edited by

                              @Woland,

                              Do you have 10.12 installed? The crashes related to the update check both happened on 10.12, and I don't have that version anywhere. If you do, can you report if you had any trouble with this crash? Can you go to the Help Menu and choose "Check for Updates" to see if anything bad happens?

                              Thanks,
                              Mark

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                              • JJHP3
                                JJHP3 last edited by mark

                                To answer Mark's questions in relation to my crash problem:

                                1) internet was disabled

                                2) no proxy, nothing unusual with connection... I don't have internet in my studio

                                4) no VPN

                                5) Gatekeeper: Allow MacApp Store and Identified Developer

                                John 

                                MBP'21- M1-Max; Sonoma 14.7; Isadora: 4.0.7 (ARM) ---- artwork: terragizmo.net

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                                • gapworks
                                  gapworks @mark last edited by

                                  @mark i  programmed all the cues on my macbook pro /16gb /high sierra ect. ...in the gallery space there is no internet available apart from other hotspots passing by. all afternoon during our test period nothing happened but once i transferred my file

                                  onto their mac mini isadora  crashed every 10 min. yes i think wifi was enabled, not sure :( i can only check on monday. it was certainly enabled on my macbook but  not connected. no vpn! gatekeeper is not set to identified developers only if needed!

                                  Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                                  • Woland
                                    Woland Tech Staff last edited by

                                    @mark 

                                    I'm actually on 10.11.4

                                    I don't have a standard license, but I opened an old patch with 2.6 (standard), in demo mode, nothing bad happens when I click "Isadora updates" or "check for new version regardless of whether or not I am connected to the internet.

                                    I opened an old patch with 2.6 (USB), in demo mode, nothing bad happens when I click "Isadora updates" or "check for new version regardless of whether or not I am connected to the internet.

                                    I opened an old patch with 2.6 (standard), with my license plugged in, nothing bad happens when I click "Isadora updates" or "check for new version regardless of whether or not I am connected to the internet.

                                    I did find a visual bug with the control panel but I'll file a bug report later. I'm headed to the women's march in NYC soon.

                                    Best wishes,

                                    Woland

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                                    • mark
                                      mark last edited by

                                      @woland said:

                                      I'm headed to the women's march in NYC soon.

                                      Thanks for the checks. You rock Lucas!

                                      I'm glad you'll continue your day with a far more worthwhile effort. I wish I was there too!

                                      Best Wishes,
                                      Mark 

                                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                      • mark
                                        mark @gapworks last edited by

                                        @gapworks said:

                                        onto their mac mini isadora  crashed every 10 min.

                                         I have three people who had this problem working with a potential fix. I'll know more by tomorrow.

                                        Thanks for your patience and understanding.

                                        Best Wishes,
                                        Mark

                                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                          Lauri last edited by

                                          Hi, just for your information:

                                          Kind of similar issue here with MacPro (2013) OSX10.11.6. Isadora 2.6 gets jammed (not really crashed), the stage still runs, but the program is stuck after every 5mins. There comes a white rectangular over the interface, and all the application menus are greyed (non-functional), and Isadora cannot be quit but has to be Force Quit.

                                          Interestingly this does not happen in my MacBookPro (2016) OSX10.12.6, where Isadora 2.6 runs without problem.

                                          Best

                                          Lauri

                                          MacPro (2013), 3.0GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon E5, RAM 64GB, Dual AMB FirePro D700, OSX 10.13.6
                                          MacBookPro (15 inch 2018), 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7, RAM 32GB, Radeon Pro Vega 20, OSX 10.14.6

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                                            Lauri last edited by

                                            Oh, sorry, forgot an image I took:

                                            MacPro (2013), 3.0GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon E5, RAM 64GB, Dual AMB FirePro D700, OSX 10.13.6
                                            MacBookPro (15 inch 2018), 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7, RAM 32GB, Radeon Pro Vega 20, OSX 10.14.6

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