Isadora 3 - Status Report from Mark

bonemap

Hi, a great read and well timed to feed the already intense anticipation for the release. It really feels like we are at the beginning of a new era for Isadora. I hope it is the most fruitful and creative for me and everyone else who has invested in the software.

Best Wishes

Bonemap

chimerik

@mark
Thank you so so much for this announcement and all the hard work you and the whole team has been putting in. It's definitely worth the wait. I have no problem to be patient and give time that Isadora needs to take its solid steps. All the growth has been so amazing. We are sending you and the whole team lots of love from Canada.

warm regards,
Sammy

CitizenJoe

@Mark, this all sounds awesome and I can't wait!

Cheers,

HUgh

jhoepffner

@mark

Thank you Mark for your great work and your commitment to the cause. I wait the new version to enjoy the result.

Hello to the team from Paris,

jacques

dbini

I have to admit i just let out a little squee of excitement. massive thankyou to the team for putting in the effort to supercharge Izzy.

RIL

Thank you so much @mark and the Team for all the work and passion. From the Isadora Latin network in Buenos Aires we are waiting for "the Day"

Best,

RIL

D1gits

@mark, Im super exited to hear all the new tools getting ready to hit the community! Thanks for all the effort and time you have put in to Isadora!

All the best from Stockholm/Sweden

pbj

Thank-you for this post and all of your work. I am looking forward to Isadora 3.

mookai1973

Dear Isadora Team,

Thank you for hard work with v.3 awesome features

Bill Cottman

Thank you. 🏋🏾‍♂️

Clement

Hi everyone,

The new features sound good !

Will V3 be compatible with versions of Mac OS X older than Mojave ?

We can see on the table screenshot that tests were made on Mac OS 10.11, did you test 10.9 as well ? Do you recommand to leave this OS and which one is better according to you (for a MacBook Pro Late 2013) ?

Thanks, all the best.

Clement

Woland

@clement

Upon release, Isadora 3 or later will be required for Isadora users working on MacOSX10.14.x (Mojave), but Isadora 3 will also function on MacOSX 10.12.x (Sierra) and MacOSX 10.13.x (High Sierra).

Please see this thread, which is primarily about Isadora 2 not being compatible with Mojave, but also contains the information I stated above.

Isadora 3 is not being tested on and is not designed for MacOSX 10.9.x, nor is MacOSX 10.9.x officially supported for Isadora 2.

mrtz

Dear Mark,

Some days later: thanks for your helping words after the show! I am now back in Berlin and did some comparison with activity monitor. The four Full HD 1920x1080 ProRes 422LT movies are using much much more CPU power (like 120% vs 50% CPU processing percentage) than HAP, HAP Q and even 264 encoded movies. There is a process called ”VTDecoderXPC Service” that takes a lot of CPU processing percentage, that is not shown at all when using HAP or 264. So for now I think I will use HAP Q and HAP.

With regards to the $1500 PC you mentioned ”that leaves Apple in the dust”: Can you please tell us which brand and model it is? If it is a Mini PC, is there one capable of 4 full hd outputs for projectors and a 5th one for a controlling screen?

And one final question: I used a Radeon Vega 56 in a Sonnet 650 eGPU for the show, the four outputs worked but I had the impression that the card was not faster than my internal Macbook Pros Radeon 560X at all, maybe even a bit slower.

However, I remember you said that Isadora cannot use the eGPUs additional power at the moment. But then I thought: it is not that the eGPU did not work at all, as the four outputs worked, it´s more that it just was not as fast as I had expected. Will Isadora 3 be able to take more advantage of an eGPU?

Thanks,

Moritz

bonemap

Hi

I too am going to ask if we can get some indication of what pc model and configuration is being eluded to?

Best Wishes

Bonemap

davidcoll

Super exciting! If I could just draw your attention to another possible product that could be good to support among Kinect, Orbbec, and realsense eventually: https://lightform.com/how-it-w...

bonemap

@davidcoll

Isadora May be able to do this out-of-the box IF we get a point cloud mesh integration along with the new depth sensor implementation. It would certainly be a game changer for Isadora users interested in this kind of work.

Best Wishes

Bonemap

DusX

@davidcoll said:

another possible product

The lightform camera is a independent computer, with supporting software for setup/configuration. It does not work in the same manner as these other cameras. It is unknown at this time if Isadora would be able to receive the depth image from these self contained systems.

NickBottom

This is fantastic news. All great new features.

Edalia

This all sounds fantastic! Keep up the good work and I look forward to playing around with it all when it's done.

Unfenswinger

@mrtz said:

Dear Mark,

With regards to the $1500 PC you mentioned ”that leaves Apple in the dust”: Can you please tell us which brand and model it is? If it is a Mini PC, is there one capable of 4 full hd outputs for projectors and a 5th one for a controlling screen?
And one final question: I used a Radeon Vega 56 in a Sonnet 650 eGPU for the show, the four outputs worked but I had the impression that the card was not faster than my internal Macbook Pros Radeon 560X at all, maybe even a bit slower.
However, I remember you said that Isadora cannot use the eGPUs additional power at the moment. But then I thought: it is not that the eGPU did not work at all, as the four outputs worked, it´s more that it just was not as fast as I had expected. Will Isadora 3 be able to take more advantage of an eGPU?
Thanks,
Moritz

You have a GPU you know does 4 outputs and to get your 4+1 make sure the CPU you buy has an integrated GPU as you could then get your +1 output from the motherboard video output. The other option is to run 2x GPUs the second could be a really inexpensive one solely for the control screen.

eGPUs are a bit of a waste of time as the TB3 bus speed is the limiting factor compared to a GPU attached to an internal 16x PCIe bus obviously if you are driving 4 screens at a decent frame rate that's a fair amount of bandwidth required plus overhead. You have to be careful too as these eGPU TB3 ports share the same PCIe bus, e.g. the new Mac mini has 4x TB3 ports but I'm told they all share the same 4x PCIe bus which makes a mockery of actually having 4 ports.