MIDI Show Control - What Do You Use?

mark

OK... so just to test the waters, I created a very basic MSC Watcher actor. Please drop this plugin

/Library/Application Support/TroikaTronix/Isadora Plugins

to try it out. It should receive the Go/Stop/Resume commands. It will _not_ work with TIMED_GO yet. (Dont' send that message... it might crash.)

Does it work?

Would this handle the bulk of the situations you need to cover?

Best Wishes,

Mark

P.S. Sorry Windows users... Mac only for the moment... will compile the Windows version once I get a bit of feedback.

33c8ff-msc-watcher.izzyplug.zip

MatthewH

Thanks for working on this, Mark. I typically have MSC Go commands include a cue number so, if possible, it would be great if the watcher could output both the trigger and whatever number is being sent to it. That's really all the functionality I would need in terms of recieving MSC in Izzy.

MatthewH

Never mind. I just actually looked at the plugin and it turns out that you were way ahead of me. This looks like it would cover all of my needs.

RoccoD

Hey Mark. I'm only on windows so I can't take a look at it. All the things you mentioned plus the cue number is all I would need. Really just the go and stop plus cue number is all I would want. Maybe a back would be good too. My work around that I'm using now is a real hassle and takes forever to setup. Thanks in advance for making this. I look forward to the windows version.

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mark

Dear RoccoD,

OK -- I'll get this compiled for Windows sometime later today and post it.

Best Wishes,

Mark

RoccoD

Great. If I have time I'll put it in my new show and let you know how it works.

mark

Hi Again,

OK -- first, Mac people, if you installed the MSC Watcher, please delete it before continuing.

Below you will find slightly revised versions -- for Mac and now PC as well.

PC people need to put this plugin .dll and the accompanying .qtr file at c:\program files (x86)\isadora\isadora plugins

Mac people follow the previous instructions to install.

Let me know what you find out.

Best Wishes,

Mark

84ac87-msc-watcher-mac.zip 83423b-msc-watcher-win.zip

RoccoD

Hey Mark,

I just gave the PC version a try, but it doesn't seem to be working. Light cues from an ETC Ion are not causing it to trigger. Also, it would be great if it was more like the other midi watchers in that there are inputs to decide what signal would cause it to trigger. For example, I would want it to only trigger when it receives a certain cue number. That way I'm only receiving triggers for the light cues I want. In the control watcher I can set which controller and value would cause it to trigger or if left alone it would tell me what the midi control I received. It would be great if the msc watcher did the same thing.

Thanks for spending time on this.

MatthewH

In the meantime, a comparator and gate would do what you want Rocco

RoccoD

Thanks Matthew. That would work, but I'm not getting anything with it yet. It isn't reading the MSC at all. I know my midi works since I'm using a midi translator program to make the show work. Also, the output is in string. Is that what it is supposed to do?

mark

Yes, the output is supposed to be a string. That's because cue numbers can take the form "12.34.56.78" -- there's no limitation on how many "dots" there are. You can't represent this with a number. As Matthew indicates, you can easily use the Text Comparator to do the comparison, and then put the whole thing inside a nice little User Actor that will do the job for you.

But regarding it not working... I'll simply have to give it a test on Windows. I compiled the version I gave you, but didn't have time to test it properly. I'll try to give that a go as soon as I am able.

Best Wishes,

Mark

fubbi

My dream is coming true...

mark

Dear RoccoD,

Well, I found out that in the PC version of Isadora I had never properly implemented SysEx input! I was shocked to realize it, but I guess since there was no actor to receive it, I never noticed nor did anyone else. I've got the code working now... but it will be a few days before I can get a version to you. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best Wishes,

Mark

stewives

Using this plugin I can't figure out a way to only have it fire on a specific cue number.

Has anyone else found a way to do this?

Please Help me!

mark

You just need to use the Text Comparator to compare the cue number to the desired cue number. See the picture for an example.

Best Wishes,

Mark

PatrickPagano

is there a windows version for this? We would be very interested here at digital worlds for this to be working on several upcoming events.

thanks

Patrick

fubbi

So what about generating mtc? Thats what I need the most. Fubbi

mark

Fubbi: just keep bugging me. I'm back in Berlin starting Feb 18th, and will be focusing completely on Izzy. Let's talk then.

PacoTheCharm

I'm trying the actor now, sending signal from qlab - I am not understanding what we are supposed to set up in the fields to get a trigger signal. We have a firewire 410 with midi into a roland midi receiver UM-1 - we tried it with the midi on watcher, it works fine. We can't get the MSC watcher to react though.

mark

Dear Paco,

Are you working on Windows? If so you must wait for the next update before the MSC actor will work. I discovered a deeper bug/problem on the PC version that can only be solved by updating the app.

On the other hand, if you're using a Mac, it should work. So let me know if you're on the Mac.

Also, what specifically are you sending from QLab? Can you detail the message you are sending?

Best Wishes,

Mark