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    MIDI Show Control - What Do You Use?

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    • MatthewH
      MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

      Never mind. I just actually looked at the plugin and it turns out that you were way ahead of me. This looks like it would cover all of my needs.

      Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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        RoccoD last edited by

        Hey Mark.  I'm only on windows so I can't take a look at it.  All the things you mentioned plus the cue number is all I would need.  Really just the go and stop plus cue number is all I would want.  Maybe a back would be good too.   My work around that I'm using now is a real hassle and takes forever to setup.  Thanks in advance for making this.  I look forward to the windows version.

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        • mark
          mark last edited by

          Dear RoccoD,

          OK -- I'll get this compiled for Windows sometime later today and post it.
          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            RoccoD last edited by

            Great.  If I have time I'll put it in my new show and let you know how it works.

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            • mark
              mark last edited by

              Hi Again,

              OK -- first, Mac people, if you installed the MSC Watcher, please delete it before continuing.
              Below you will find slightly revised versions -- for Mac and now PC as well.
              PC people need to put this plugin .dll and the accompanying .qtr file at c:\program files (x86)\isadora\isadora plugins
              Mac people follow the previous instructions to install.
              Let me know what you find out.
              Best Wishes,
              Mark

              84ac87-msc-watcher-mac.zip 83423b-msc-watcher-win.zip

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                RoccoD last edited by

                Hey Mark,

                I just gave the PC version a try, but it doesn't seem to be working.  Light cues from an ETC Ion are not causing it to trigger.  Also, it would be great if it was more like the other midi watchers in that there are inputs to decide what signal would cause it to trigger.  For example, I would want it to only trigger when it receives a certain cue number.  That way I'm only receiving triggers for the light cues I want.  In the control watcher I can set which controller and value would cause it to trigger or if left alone it would tell me what the midi control I received.  It would be great if the msc watcher did the same thing.  
                Thanks for spending time on this.
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                • MatthewH
                  MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                  In the meantime, a comparator and gate would do what you want Rocco

                  Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                    RoccoD last edited by

                    Thanks Matthew.  That would work, but I'm not getting anything with it yet.  It isn't reading the MSC at all.  I know my midi works since I'm using a midi translator program to make the show work.  Also, the output is in string.  Is that what it is supposed to do?

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                    • mark
                      mark last edited by

                      Yes, the output is supposed to be a string. That's because cue numbers can take the form "12.34.56.78" -- there's no limitation on how many "dots" there are. You can't represent this with a number. As Matthew indicates, you can easily use the Text Comparator to do the comparison, and then put the whole thing inside a nice little User Actor that will do the job for you.

                      But regarding it not working... I'll simply have to give it a test on Windows. I compiled the version I gave you, but didn't have time to test it properly. I'll try to give that a go as soon as I am able.
                      Best Wishes,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                      • fubbi
                        fubbi last edited by

                        My dream is coming true...

                        Mac M2 Ultra, 64gb — Berlin

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                        • mark
                          mark last edited by

                          Dear RoccoD,

                          Well, I found out that in the PC version of Isadora I had never properly implemented SysEx input! I was shocked to realize it, but I guess since there was no actor to receive it, I never noticed nor did anyone else. I've got the code working now... but it will be a few days before I can get a version to you. Sorry for the inconvenience.
                          Best Wishes,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            stewives last edited by

                            Using this plugin I can't figure out a way to only have it fire on a specific cue number.

                            Has anyone else found a way to do this?
                            Please Help me!
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                            • mark
                              mark last edited by

                              You just need to use the Text Comparator to compare the cue number to the desired cue number. See the picture for an example.

                              Best Wishes,
                              Mark

                              861489-msc-compare.png

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                PatrickPagano last edited by

                                is there a windows version for this? We would be very interested here at digital worlds for this to be working on several upcoming events.

                                thanks
                                Patrick
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                                • fubbi
                                  fubbi last edited by

                                  So what about generating mtc? Thats what I need the most. Fubbi

                                  Mac M2 Ultra, 64gb — Berlin

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                                  • mark
                                    mark last edited by

                                    Fubbi: just keep bugging me. I'm back in Berlin starting Feb 18th, and will be focusing completely on Izzy. Let's talk then.

                                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                    • PacoTheCharm
                                      PacoTheCharm last edited by

                                      I'm trying the actor now, sending signal from qlab - I am not understanding what we are supposed to set up in the fields to get a trigger signal. We have a firewire 410 with midi into a roland midi receiver UM-1 - we tried it with the midi on watcher, it works fine. We can't get the MSC watcher to react though.

                                      Set, Lighting, Projection Designer
                                      http://www.wawr.ca

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                                      • mark
                                        mark last edited by

                                        Dear Paco,

                                        Are you working on Windows? If so you must wait for the next update before the MSC actor will work. I discovered a deeper bug/problem on the PC version that can only be solved by updating the app.
                                        On the other hand, if you're using a Mac, it should work. So let me know if you're on the Mac.
                                        Also, what specifically are you sending from QLab? Can you detail the message you are sending?
                                        Best Wishes,
                                        Mark

                                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                        • PacoTheCharm
                                          PacoTheCharm last edited by

                                          Dear Mark,

                                          I am on Mac OSX 10.8.2. When I set up a midi note cue on Qlab and use the midi note on watcher it all works nicely.

                                          Attached is a picture of the qlab computer computer and a picture of the izzy computer with the message it is receiving. It does hear something, just can't get it to do anything. Instead of Midi note I am sending an MSC message, which is a different type of cue in Qlab.

                                          Cheers,

                                          Wlad
                                          7e89bd-screen-shot-2013-02-21-at-12.55.08-pm.png 32d254-screen-shot-2013-02-21-at-12.59.51-pm.png

                                          Set, Lighting, Projection Designer
                                          http://www.wawr.ca

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                                          • mark
                                            mark last edited by

                                            Dear Wlad,

                                            I don't have QLab -- but I tested it within Isadora and it worked OK. Just to be really sure you have the latest and greatest, please re-install the MIDI Show Control Plugin that is attached.
                                            Follow the installation instructions given earlier in this thread.
                                            If it still doesn't work, for what it's worth, try using device ID 1 instead of device ID 2 (on both machines obviously.) Or else set the machine ID to "all" if that's an option in QLab.
                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            e0f38e-msc-watcher.zip

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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