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    • bruper
      bruper last edited by

      Wow, it's an honour to see this interest from the big guys! So, from the basic just in case: I turn on Wifi on my Android smartphone, put same IP on TouchOSC as the one in my MBP, launch OSCulator, select same OSC port on the input, on the OSC routing select local host, 9000. Launch eMotion, select O on the tools for OSC, receive, 9000, update I put full on 10. Launch Syphon Recorder, Launch Isadora, QCSyphonclient+imagetovideo+projector: Done
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      • particlep
        particlep last edited by

        i've played with emotion again this afternoon.  i was able to connect osc values from isadora to parameters in emotion and see things move/change/happen.

        the breakthrough with emotion for me was seeing an output.
        i think i might soon need to have a look at syphon.

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        • particlep
          particlep last edited by

          @bruper

          what version of emotion are you using? i've downloaded 0.6.7.3 and i get the feeling that it's a version that might be a bit buggy. i've emailed adrien to ask if there is in fact a newer version available.

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          • bruper
            bruper last edited by

            @ particlep sorry only saw your post today, I just to receive comments via e-mail, not any more... eMotion finder-info says .6 period. It's also has many bugs unfortunately, the cursor is disappearing often, etc. Would be nice if Adrien would answer you and if he could progress in this very promising software (and provide a manual...)

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            • particlep
              particlep last edited by

              @bruper i've been waiting for a reply before adding another comment.  it's nearly break time so a quick addition, i too get the disappearing cursor thing.  my feeling is that version .6 available is a work in progress that is way behind the version used for the shows as seen on vimeo.

              it is an exciting application and one that i expect i'll continue to dabble with until such time as a version is released that is usable in a show situation.
              once i got past the initial how to see an output, i found version .6 fairly logical in it's layout and rapidly got myself to places in which i was seeing control able results.
              i think it's another situation where we have a contrast to the excellent work and support done by mark and his close team with isadora.

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              • bruper
                bruper last edited by

                @particlep
                yeap, thanks Mark and close team!
                About eMotion, I agree with your feeling about version .6.
                I was experimenting in the first part of my interactive creative research here in Unicamp, Brazil in the past days, also with people (from NICS) that are used to programming in general (something I'm not good at)...
                I/we where unable to get wii or osc to interact behind the basic with it, I would love to be able to "click" (twice) in the render window, and animate from the remote stage weather with pen, particles or motion...
                instate of having to deal with the fact that eMotion wants to stay in top of all other application don't matter what and that every minute or so you have to click on the upper part of the mac window to retake view.control of your mouse.
                Did you have better achievement?
                It seems to me that at least part of the beautiful videos I saw from Adrien are not "interactive live" but pre-recorded projected videos, am I wrong?

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                • particlep
                  particlep last edited by

                  @bruper

                  my experiences of emotion mirror your experiences.  i did get osc data from isadora, however it is very restrictive in it's implimentation in emotion.
                  as to your theory about the videos being pre-recorded...interesting.  something i'd not directly thought about... maybe we'll hear from adrien about it all ...
                  time will tell.  
                  happy new year.

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                  • vanakaru
                    vanakaru last edited by

                    As far as I recall (I have been checking on eMotion for some years) Adrien do not use this app per-se for his projects. It is just one version of the custom software he uses given to general public. Maybe to chew on or be inspired by.

                    When I first saw his work and learned about the eMotion I was very exited to get that tool to fill my needs. But I never got anywhere with it and since then I have become happy with Isadora, OSCulator, Junxion and shifted my focus accordingly.

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                    • particlep
                      particlep last edited by

                      @vanakaru thanks for mentioning junxion. jamie introduced it in a workshop and i"ve so forgotten to look at it further.

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                      • vanakaru
                        vanakaru last edited by

                        Junxion is very powerful sensor(HID, camera, Wii, Arduino, audio OSC) to MIDI and OSC converter. There are video tutorials to most basics. Great fun!

                        MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                        • bruper
                          bruper last edited by

                          happy new year to all from the Amazon forest,
                          don't know junxion but I'm already searching for it, connection permitting....

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                            nick last edited by

                            http://steim.org/product/junxion/

                            http://steim.org/product/junxion-lite/

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                            • P
                              PatrickPagano last edited by

                              hi folks, i came up with a few nice motion controlled particle systems for the final show, i wil share the patch and explain a bit of it tonight if anyone is interested still.

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                              • particlep
                                particlep last edited by

                                i am, sorry i"ve been off with a girl discussing an essay, only now seen your post.

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                                • vanakaru
                                  vanakaru last edited by

                                  @PatrickPagano

                                  Yes, very interested.

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                                  • vanakaru
                                    vanakaru last edited by

                                    http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/452/adrien-m-on-creatorsproject

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                                    • Skulpture
                                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                      Anyone ever used Plask?

                                      http://www.plask.org/
                                      Could be a good alternative to eMotion? Seems to be a lot more documentation on Plask than eMotion that's all as not many of seem to be getting anywhere fast with it.
                                      http://vimeo.com/27737392

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                                      • particlep
                                        particlep last edited by

                                        @Skulpture thank you for sharing about plask. it's new to me. maybe if i get snowed in over the weekend i can use the time to catch up with all the new info :)

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                                        • P
                                          PatrickPagano last edited by

                                          here is the particle system i ended up with, it's kind of messy. you should load in a movie and a .png for the paticles of your choice and of course you have to turn on video input, i hope this helps someone

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                                          • mark
                                            mark last edited by

                                            Dear Patrick,

                                            I think you forgot to attach the patch.
                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
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