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    Motion Control Particles (e-motion software)

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    • mark
      mark last edited by

      Dear Patrick,

      Well, it all depends on the "sheet" you intend to track. What's that like? Is there a way to use the Luminance Key or Chroma Key actor to isolate the sheet? If so, then you should be able to use Eyes or Eyes++ to track it's position, and feed the horz/vert coordinates into the 3D Particles actor.
      See Skulpture's blog, under "Basic Motion Tracking" on how to take the video from Luminance Key or Chroma Key and use it with Eyes or Eyes++.
      Best Wishes,
      Mark

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • bruper
        bruper last edited by

        Hi, eMotion looks very interesting, is there a way to access it from Isadora?

        17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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        • mark
          mark last edited by

          Link for eMotion please... google just brings up references to "emition", i.e., the feeling.

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            @Mark 

            http://www.am-cb.net/emotion

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            • mark
              mark last edited by

              Thanks G. Will take a look to see if it has Syphon or some other way to access it.

              Best Wishes,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                Its heavily Quartz Based so the possibility of using Syphon will be very high. 

                It looks like its been updated since I last used it so maybe its a bit more user friendly these days. I remember when I used it over a year ago I looked for the Quartz Composition location but it was not file based like Izzy.

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                • mark
                  mark last edited by

                  Well, looking through the menus I don't see options to get data (or images) in or out. I may be quartz based at some level, but it's a proper application -- i.e., it's not a quartz patch you can somehow deconstruct or get access to.

                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    This might help:

                    [http://vimeo.com/album/10747/video/1008937](http://vimeo.com/album/10747/video/1008937)
                    all videos;
                    [http://vimeo.com/album/10747](http://vimeo.com/album/10747)

                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                    • vanakaru
                      vanakaru last edited by

                      @Mark there is Syphon client option for layer. I am not sure about output though.

                      MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                      • bruper
                        bruper last edited by

                        It has OSC send/receive...

                        17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                        • bruper
                          bruper last edited by

                          I can send Android to eMotion and control some things and can send to OSCulator; after that I cannot advance...

                          17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                          • bruper
                            bruper last edited by

                            I'm finally able to use eMotion on Izzy from touchOSC via Osculator and Syphon, making progress :)

                            17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              A screen recording or basic tutorial video would be great @bruper ;)

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                              • vanakaru
                                vanakaru last edited by

                                Wow, I knew there will be someone!

                                MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                                • dbini
                                  dbini last edited by

                                  Nice one Bruno. the chain gets longer and more complicated.

                                  John Collingswood
                                  taikabox.com
                                  2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                  plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                                  • bruper
                                    bruper last edited by

                                    Wow, it's an honour to see this interest from the big guys! So, from the basic just in case: I turn on Wifi on my Android smartphone, put same IP on TouchOSC as the one in my MBP, launch OSCulator, select same OSC port on the input, on the OSC routing select local host, 9000. Launch eMotion, select O on the tools for OSC, receive, 9000, update I put full on 10. Launch Syphon Recorder, Launch Isadora, QCSyphonclient+imagetovideo+projector: Done
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                                    17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                    • particlep
                                      particlep last edited by

                                      i've played with emotion again this afternoon.  i was able to connect osc values from isadora to parameters in emotion and see things move/change/happen.

                                      the breakthrough with emotion for me was seeing an output.
                                      i think i might soon need to have a look at syphon.

                                      isadora v3.0.7
                                      mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                      mac osx 10.12.6
                                      dyslexic.

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                                      • particlep
                                        particlep last edited by

                                        @bruper

                                        what version of emotion are you using? i've downloaded 0.6.7.3 and i get the feeling that it's a version that might be a bit buggy. i've emailed adrien to ask if there is in fact a newer version available.

                                        isadora v3.0.7
                                        mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                        mac osx 10.12.6
                                        dyslexic.

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                                        • bruper
                                          bruper last edited by

                                          @ particlep sorry only saw your post today, I just to receive comments via e-mail, not any more... eMotion finder-info says .6 period. It's also has many bugs unfortunately, the cursor is disappearing often, etc. Would be nice if Adrien would answer you and if he could progress in this very promising software (and provide a manual...)

                                          17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                          • particlep
                                            particlep last edited by

                                            @bruper i've been waiting for a reply before adding another comment.  it's nearly break time so a quick addition, i too get the disappearing cursor thing.  my feeling is that version .6 available is a work in progress that is way behind the version used for the shows as seen on vimeo.

                                            it is an exciting application and one that i expect i'll continue to dabble with until such time as a version is released that is usable in a show situation.
                                            once i got past the initial how to see an output, i found version .6 fairly logical in it's layout and rapidly got myself to places in which i was seeing control able results.
                                            i think it's another situation where we have a contrast to the excellent work and support done by mark and his close team with isadora.

                                            isadora v3.0.7
                                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                            mac osx 10.12.6
                                            dyslexic.

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