Duration and OSC
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dear @jhoepffner, thanks for writing,
I will look into it hopefully tomorrow, performing in Spain at the moment...
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wait, wait, I am just discovering it… But I am finding some very interesting things, between Isadora, Duration and touchOSC on iPad. I am just preparing the second day of a 5 day workshop on Isadora for persons working in Theater and they are really interested by the timeline possibilities.
I have some problems and questions and I try to intervene in the Duration google group, I register myself, but my contribution disappears, any idea? -
I'm current programming a system that provides Watchout-like cuing capabilities like freerunning and looping playback, fully integrated MSC, and control cues using a tightly integrated combination of Duration and Isadora user actors I'm creating. I'm extremely excited about this prospect. I think if Isadora were ever to gain an integrated timeline, I would want it to be similar to Duration.
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I think I am going to blogging this relationship between Duration and Isadora.
You guys (@[jhoepffner](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/15/jhoepffner) @MatthewH and @[bruper](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/929/bruper)) have got me thinking about this new idea in terms of timelines.... It really does open up Isadora into new territory. -
For sure.. as soon as I used it I thought that its a fantastic partner to Isadora, and I agree with Matthew that I can seen a similar component as part of Isadora at some future point.
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Worth a look also....
[http://www.iannix.org/en/index.php](http://www.iannix.org/en/index.php) -
As per my earlier post I just finished building the first draft of a set of user actors I'm calling Duration Toolkit that provide some pretty powerful functionality for cuing in Isadora using Duration. Key features include:
-Automatic creation of a database of cue numbers and positions to allow easy jumping to a particular cue by number as well as effortless integration with MIDI Show Control-An Isadora based clock that Duration is slaved to while still permitting full use of Durations' built in transport controls-Built in error reporting and troubleshooting messages in plain english for easy configuration-Watchout style freerunning and looping movie playback and straightforward picture playback-Extremely resource efficient-Built in controls for jumping to timeline positions based on time, percent, or cue number-Creating staggered fades across multiple channels of video is vastly easier than with any other cueing method in IsadoraI am also working on implementing:-Movie playback that chases timecode-Full designer/tech controls with seamless integration-Cue names in addition to cue numbers-Jump cue type-Seamless integration with my master/slave and understudy/spare playback computer actors for easy cuing across multiple headless playback computers from a single master computerI'm using it on a show for which I am currently in tech and it is proving to be extremely stable and I will post a video of the programming/configuration process once I have a moment and in the meantime I have attached a screenshot. I honestly think that this is by far the most powerful and efficient cuing system that is currently available for Isadora. Even on this single channel show I am enjoying its benefits and on a show with numerous channels of video I think it will probably be pretty life changing compared to the typical approach of creating hundreds of scenes. -
Hey MatthewH
Once again this is something that sure took hours/days/weeks to get where you have it now. Just wanted to say thank you for sharing and inpsiring others.
Best
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Looks awesome...
Will you put together any tutorials? ;) -
Ill definitely do a video demonstrating how it all works once I'm less busy. I definitely want to do some more work on them before I would consider distributing the actors and I haven't decided yet whether I will make them generally available. I forgot to mention this before but they are compatible with both OSX and Windows.
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Great to hear since I'm on windows.
I guess I have two things to hope for..
1 that you decide to make them available (within my budget)
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I'll do my best on #1.
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Looks brilliant. Not only have you cracked the whole communication/osc commands and stuff you've built an interface too! haha. Where do you find the time? :)
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The middle of the night, mostly.
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great!
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Duration seems to have kicked off a new trend... here is another type of 'timeline' app.
[http://createdigitalmotion.com/2013/05/vezer-lets-you-control-anything-with-timelines-without-being-overly-hard-to-use-mac/](http://createdigitalmotion.com/2013/05/vezer-lets-you-control-anything-with-timelines-without-being-overly-hard-to-use-mac/)[http://www.vezerapp.hu/](http://www.vezerapp.hu/) -
Looks nice.
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If this is as good as CoGe is then it would be great. Only it will not be free. -
Well has anyone thought to use ableton live as a timeline tool? Sure it looks exagerate power just for that (like renting the top restarant in the world just to boil an egg. But it works. Isn't it? Or Audiomulch...
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Hi Armando, Live doesn't output OSC natively for what I know. I think you need to add Max4Live
Mehdi