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    3DS Files, textures and importing into Isadora.

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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      How to create a 3D model in 3DS max, add a texture and then import it into isadora.

      The main step here is the texture that you add in the 3ds max software MUST be in the same location as the exported 3ds model.

      In this case, my image called PP.png was on my desktop (bad practice I know!) I used this in 3ds max as a bmp texture file and then exported the .3ds file to my desktop also.

      Then, when you import into Isadora, Isadora automatically finds the file (PP.png) on my desktop. 

      Note: You do not need to import the texture file. 

      Also: If you moved the referenced texture file AFTER the export, it does not work.

      I hope this helps. 

      Apologies for the rough and ready screen record. 

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
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        hairi Beta Silver last edited by

        It's a puzzle for me. I never got into 3D Model creation and do not want to. I checked various software but it's all too alien. 

        I used the only model i have that actually works, the cube in the Isadora examples. It comes as a .3ds file with "some texture files" in the same folder and allows to use the texture input of the 3D Player in Isadora. This works even after moving the entire folder. Perfect, once understood that the cube is somewhere odd in the 3D space and requires a z-translation > -30 to be in view.

        Could you publish a small set of similar, very simple 3D models to be enjoyed by the community ? I need a cylinder, a ball if it's possible to spread a video texure on that and optionally a heart, a star and an egg. 

        I am glad to pay for this effort (or make a donation to your favourite charity (unless I cannot agree to it's politics)) and wish that the result is shared.

        Thanks for considering

        yours 

        Hairi

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        • Skulpture
          Skulpture Izzy Guru @hairi last edited by Skulpture

          @hairi 

          Hi. Thanks for the nice message. I can easily create these shapes (or similar) and use the cubecl texture on all the 3D models. That way; all shapes will work like the cube but the cube texture will look awful on any other shape. But it should work. 

          I will attempt this asap for you. 

          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by Skulpture

            This is what I have so far.

            A cube, cylinder and an egg.

            Download the three files and the black gloss texture and keep them in the same folder.


            Files.

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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              hairi Beta Silver @Skulpture last edited by

              @skulpture

              many thanks. works perfectly. I owe you one. name it ! 

              btw forgot to ask for a cone-shape ... a cone and a cylinder should make a nice 3D arrow !

              fyi

              I am working on something that uses a ultra-short-throw (0.25) video-projection to the inside of a cylinder. My guess is that projecting onto a 3D virtual cylinder will do the necessary anamorphism to correct for the distortion of the projection. Will see that later today.

              cheers

              h

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                I have added a cone into the folder for you.

                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                • bonemap
                  bonemap Izzy Guru @Skulpture last edited by

                  @skulpture said:

                  cube, cylinder and an egg

                   There are a number of more complex shapes as textured 3D files prepared for use in Isadora linked to a previous forum thread: https://community.troikatronix...

                  best wishes

                  bonemap

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru @bonemap last edited by Skulpture

                    @bonemap said:

                    @skulpture said:
                    cube, cylinder and an egg
                     There are a number of more complex shapes as textured 3D files prepared for use in Isadora linked to a previous forum thread: https://community.troikatronix...
                    best wishes
                    bonemap

                     Ah yes thank you @bonemap I have added them to my folder so people can download then also.

                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      hairi Beta Silver last edited by

                      3D heaven on the way !!!

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru @hairi last edited by

                        @hairi said:

                        3D heaven on the way !!!

                         Have fun - please share your results. Would love to see them!

                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          hairi Beta Silver last edited by

                          I will asap. (i'm on a holiday for a week). Meanwhile I developed a little GLSL actor that is similar to Matte++ but more flexible. It allows to move and zoom the image projected on the 3D model. Just copy and paste the code in the attached file into a GLSL actor. 

                          cheers 

                          h

                           

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                            hairi Beta Silver last edited by Michel

                            do not know if attachments work. here's the code:

                            uniform sampler2D iChannel0;
                            uniform vec3 iResolution;
                            uniform float iTime; // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(src_zoom_x, xz, 0., 10., 1.0, "source image zoom horizontal");
                            uniform float src_zoom_x;
                            // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(src_zoom_y, yz, 0., 10., 1.0, "source image zoom vertical");
                            uniform float src_zoom_y; // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(src_scroll_x, xp, -10., 10., -0.0, "source image scroll horizontal");
                            uniform float src_scroll_x;
                            // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(src_scroll_y, yp, -10., 10., -0.0, "source image scroll vertical");
                            uniform float src_scroll_y; // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(dst_zoom_x, xs, 0., 10., 1.0, "destination image zoom horizontal");
                            uniform float dst_zoom_x;
                            // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(dst_zoom_y, ys, 0., 10., 1.0, "destination image zoom vertical");
                            uniform float dst_zoom_y; // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(dst_pos_x, xpo, -10., 10., 0.0, "destination image position horizontal");
                            uniform float dst_pos_x;
                            // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(dst_pos_y, ypo, -10., 10., 0.0, "destination image position vertical");
                            uniform float dst_pos_y; // ISADORA_INT_PARAM(mask, msk, 0, 1, 0, "mask source image repeats");
                            uniform int mask;
                            // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(blur, blr, 0., 10., 0.0, "blur mask");
                            uniform float blur; // ISADORA_FLOAT_PARAM(transp_thres, tt, 0., 1., 0.0, "black to transparent thresh");
                            uniform float transp_thres; void main(void) {
                            vec2 uv = gl_FragCoord.xy / iResolution.xy;
                            vec2 stretch = 1.0 / vec2(dst_zoom_x,dst_zoom_y);
                            vec2 zoom = 1.0 / vec2(src_zoom_x,src_zoom_y);
                            vec2 pan = (stretch - vec2(1.0)) / -2.0; // compensation for stretching
                            vec2 pan2 = (zoom - vec2(1.0)) / -2.0; // compensation for stretching

                            vec4 image = texture2D(iChannel0, (uv 
                            * zoom
                            + pan2)
                            * stretch
                            + pan
                            + vec2(src_scroll_x,src_scroll_y) 
                            + (vec2(dst_pos_x,-dst_pos_y) * -stretch)
                            ).rgba;

                            image.a = step(transp_thres,length(image.rgb));
                            if(mask > 0){

                            float left = (1.0-(dst_zoom_x)) / 2.0;
                            float right = 1.0 - left;
                            float bottom = (1.0-(dst_zoom_y)) / 2.0;
                            float top = 1.0 - bottom;

                            left = left + dst_pos_x;
                            right = right + dst_pos_x;
                            top = top - dst_pos_y;
                            bottom = bottom - dst_pos_y;

                            float blurr = max(blur / 10.0,1.0 / iResolution.x); // size of one pixel image = image*smoothstep(left,left+blurr,uv.x);
                            image = image*smoothstep(right,right-blurr,uv.x);
                            image = image*smoothstep(bottom,bottom+blurr,uv.y);
                            image = image*smoothstep(top,top-blurr,uv.y);
                            }



                            gl_FragColor = image;
                            }
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                            • mark
                              mark @hairi last edited by

                              @hairi

                              At risk of not adding substance to the conversation, it just made me happy to see someone sharing GLSL code. Highlike. ;-)

                              Best Wishes,
                              Mark

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                              • anibalzorrilla
                                anibalzorrilla @Skulpture last edited by

                                @skulpture Thanks a lot, Graham! Best regards.

                                Anibal Zorrilla, https://intad1.wordpress.com. Buenos Aires, Argentina.
                                Laptop OMEN, Win 10 64-bit, Intel Core i7 7700HQ @ 2.80GHz, 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (HP), 12 gig RAM

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                                • Skulpture
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru @anibalzorrilla last edited by

                                  @anibalzorrilla said:

                                  @skulpture Thanks a lot, Graham! Best regards.

                                   Welcome. I should make some more shapes really.... I slightly neglected this thread. 

                                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                  RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                  RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                  • tomthebom
                                    tomthebom @Skulpture last edited by tomthebom

                                    @skulpture

                                    Or a tutorial how to add textures and export shapes from Blender, which is free. 2.7.9 still exports to 3ds, 2.8 makes problems exporting to 3ds. That would be such a treat! Kind regards, Tom

                                    Izzy 3.2.6 ARM on MBP14'/2023/M2 Pro/ macOS 13.5

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                                    • Skulpture
                                      Skulpture Izzy Guru @tomthebom last edited by

                                      @tomthebom said:

                                      @skulpture
                                      Or a tutorial how to add textures and export shapes from Blender, which is free. 2.7.9 still exports to 3ds, 2.8 makes problems exporting to 3ds. That would be such a treat! Kind regards, Tom

                                       Good shout. I might do that.

                                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                      • bonemap
                                        bonemap Izzy Guru @Skulpture last edited by bonemap

                                        @skulpture said:

                                        2.8 makes problems exporting to 3ds.

                                         I am a big fan of the Blender 2.8 texture mapping tools. But I think you are right about not being able to create Isadora compatible 3ds files directly out of Blender. I use Cheetah 3D and MeshLab to condition the forms I make in Blender for use in Isadora. But it is still a better modelling and texturing experience to start the process using Blender 2.8.

                                        Best wishes

                                        Russell

                                        http://bonemap.com | Australia
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