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Isadora 3 - Status Report from Mark


  • Tech Staff

    @clement

    Upon release, Isadora 3 or later will be required for Isadora users working on MacOSX10.14.x (Mojave), but Isadora 3 will also function on MacOSX 10.12.x (Sierra) and MacOSX 10.13.x (High Sierra).

    Please see this thread, which is primarily about Isadora 2 not being compatible with Mojave, but also contains the information I stated above.

    Isadora 3 is not being tested on and is not designed for MacOSX 10.9.x,  nor is MacOSX 10.9.x officially supported for Isadora 2.



  • Dear Mark,

    Some days later: thanks for your helping words after the show! I am now back in Berlin and did some comparison with activity monitor. The four Full HD 1920x1080 ProRes 422LT movies are using much much more CPU power (like 120% vs 50% CPU processing percentage) than HAP, HAP Q and even 264 encoded movies. There is a process called ”VTDecoderXPC Service” that takes a lot of CPU processing percentage, that is not shown at all when using HAP or 264. So for now I think I will use HAP Q and HAP.

    With regards to the $1500 PC you mentioned ”that leaves Apple in the dust”:  Can you please tell us which brand and model it is? If it is a Mini PC, is there one capable of 4 full hd outputs for projectors and a 5th one for a controlling screen?

    And one final question: I used a Radeon Vega 56 in a Sonnet 650 eGPU for the show, the four outputs worked but I had the impression that the card was not faster than my internal Macbook Pros Radeon 560X at all, maybe even a bit slower.

    However, I remember you said that Isadora cannot use the eGPUs additional power at the moment. But then I thought: it is not that the eGPU did not work at all, as the four outputs worked, it´s more that it just was not as fast as I had expected. Will Isadora 3 be able to take more advantage of an eGPU?

    Thanks,

    Moritz


  • Beta Platinum

    Hi 

    I too am going to ask if we can get some indication of what pc model and configuration is being eluded to?

    Best Wishes 

    Bonemap 



  • Super exciting! If I could just draw your attention to another possible product that could be good to support among Kinect, Orbbec, and realsense eventually: https://lightform.com/how-it-w...


  • Beta Platinum

    @davidcoll

    Isadora May be able to do this out-of-the box IF we get a point cloud mesh integration along with the new depth sensor implementation. It would certainly be a game changer for Isadora users interested in this kind of work.

    Best Wishes 

    Bonemap 


  • Tech Staff

    @davidcoll said:

    another possible product

     The lightform camera is a independent computer, with supporting software for setup/configuration. It does not work in the same manner as these other cameras. It is unknown at this time if Isadora would be able to receive the depth image from these self contained systems.



  • This is fantastic news. All great new features.



  • This all sounds fantastic! Keep up the good work and I look forward to playing around with it all when it's done.



  • @mrtz said:

    Dear Mark,


    With regards to the $1500 PC you mentioned ”that leaves Apple in the dust”:  Can you please tell us which brand and model it is? If it is a Mini PC, is there one capable of 4 full hd outputs for projectors and a 5th one for a controlling screen?
    And one final question: I used a Radeon Vega 56 in a Sonnet 650 eGPU for the show, the four outputs worked but I had the impression that the card was not faster than my internal Macbook Pros Radeon 560X at all, maybe even a bit slower.
    However, I remember you said that Isadora cannot use the eGPUs additional power at the moment. But then I thought: it is not that the eGPU did not work at all, as the four outputs worked, it´s more that it just was not as fast as I had expected. Will Isadora 3 be able to take more advantage of an eGPU?
    Thanks,
    Moritz

     You have a GPU you know does 4 outputs and to get your 4+1 make sure the CPU you buy has an integrated GPU as you could then get your +1 output from the motherboard video output. The other option is to run 2x GPUs the second could be a really inexpensive one solely for the control screen.

    eGPUs are a bit of a waste of time as the TB3 bus speed is the limiting factor compared to a GPU attached to an internal 16x PCIe bus obviously if you are driving 4 screens at a decent frame rate that's a fair amount of bandwidth required plus overhead. You have to be careful too as these eGPU TB3 ports share the same PCIe bus, e.g. the new Mac mini has 4x TB3 ports but I'm told they all share the same 4x PCIe bus which makes a mockery of actually having 4 ports.



  • Massive work mark. I Can't wait to test it with my massive new config. I9 pc with Blackmagic Decklin 4k extreme 12g!!



  • These all new features are my dream!

    I can see a lot of possibilities now, good job team!