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    Isadora 3 - Status Report from Mark

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    • Armando
      Armando Beta Gold last edited by

      Massive work mark. I Can't wait to test it with my massive new config. I9 pc with Blackmagic Decklin 4k extreme 12g!!

      Armando Menicacci
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      • Shigezo
        Shigezo last edited by

        These all new features are my dream!

        I can see a lot of possibilities now, good job team!

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          DBO @mark last edited by

          @mark

          It' look grate. I'm impatient to try. 

          Whishing you good job to achiueve this release.

          Best rgard 

          Oliver

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          • timeg
            timeg last edited by

            Thanks Mark. This is so exciting. there are features here we briefly talked about years ago now coming to fruition. I'm already planning my own projects but am also going to set up an immersion/interactivity research lab here in Shanghai based around this. The new pricing structure should also help broaden this into a full blown course. BRAVO!!

            @timeg ---> Tim Gruchy | www.grup.tv | MPB (2021) M1max, 64G, OS12.5 | IZZ 3.2.6 | located in Sydney Australia

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              kurt last edited by

              reading depth map images from Kinect 1, Kinect 2, Orbbec Astra, and Intel Realsense cameras which can be paired with the new NiTE Body Tracking actor

              Exciting.  @Mark, how did you get around NiTE's licensing restrictions, which prohibit using it with non-Primesense devices and prohibit redistributing it?

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              • mark
                mark @kurt last edited by

                @kurt said:

                Exciting.  @Mark, how did you get around NiTE's licensing restrictions, which prohibit using it with non-Primesense devices and prohibit redistributing it?

                Uh, well, I guess I wasn't aware of that particular restriction. From that license agreement:

                You shall not (and shall not permit third parties to): (a) integrate the NITE with any products other than the Authorized Hardware; (b) distribute the NITE in any manner; (c) use or make available the NITE pursuant to an open source license; (d) modify the NITE;

                There are other drivers out there (libfreenect2) that allow you to use NITE with Kinect 2, which is not a Prime Sense device, which is in violation of clause (a).

                Obviously Processing, NI Mate and others are distributing the library, which is in direct violation of the clause (b)

                I would guess that this github is in violation of clause (d) because it includes NITE.

                In other words, there Prime Sense (which was bought up by Apple) don't seem to be enforcing this or going after people. They don't even have a website anymore (the URL www.openni.org reroutes to Apple.) But, now that I'm aware of this, we may simply have to ask people to install NITE themselves if they wish to use that part of the system.

                We will investigate further.

                Best Wishes,
                Mark

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
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                • bonemap
                  bonemap Izzy Guru @kurt last edited by

                  @kurt said:

                  how did you get around NiTE's licensing restrictions, which prohibit using it with non-Primesense devices and prohibit redistributing it

                  How can this be considered evidence of a current license? It appears to be linked to a the Internet Archive's capture of a discontinued Openni website dating from 2014. There appears to be no directly accessible current/active reference to the functioning Openni.org enterprise or the licensing agreement that is referenced in the archive.

                  It appears a bit harsh to sign up to this form and drop what appears to be a redundant licensing clause without pointing to current information or specifications.

                  Please correct me if I am wrong.

                  best wishes

                  bonemap

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                    kurt @bonemap last edited by

                    That's the most up-to-date NiTE licensing information available, since Apple took down the website.

                    I just don't want to see TroikaTronix sued by Apple's less-than-magnanimous legal team — that would be bad for all of us.

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                    • mark
                      mark @bonemap last edited by

                      @bonemap said:

                      It appears a bit harsh to sign up to this form and drop what appears to be a redundant licensing clause without pointing to current information or specifications.

                      Well, I appreciate knowing this actually. We have to take care with these things. I mean, it super easy to install NiTE on MacOS using Homebrew, and just a tiny bit more tricky on Windows (though it could probably be handled by a script.) If we force the users to install it then I think we're safe. (Homebrew, by the way is another indication about this: https://github.com/totakke/hom...)

                      Still, I'll write on the github for the Processing plugin I mentioned above and see what they say.

                      Best Wishes,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        ppp586 @mark last edited by

                        @mark said:

                        @bonemap said:
                        It appears a bit harsh to sign up to this form and drop what appears to be a redundant licensing clause without pointing to current information or specifications.
                        Well, I appreciate knowing this actually. We have to take care with these things. I mean, it super easy to install NiTE on MacOS using Homebrew, and just a tiny bit more tricky on Windows (though it could probably be handled by a script.) If we force the users to install it then I think we're safe. (Homebrew, by the way is another indication about this: https://github.com/totakke/hom...)
                        Still, I'll write on the github for the Processing plugin I mentioned above and see what they say.
                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                         Hi,Mark 

                        I know that Millumin software support Kinect v2 in Macos ,and it is easy to use that the software check the kinect and install the drivers for it automatically.  

                        Could you tell me our Isadora V3 will support the kinect V2?

                        Thank you!

                        Jimmy Zhang

                        Running in : Razer Laptop, GeForce RTX2060,6GB VRAM, 9th Gen intel Core i7-9750H 6 Cores,16G RAM, Windows 10 Home-1903Version || Kinect Xbox One-- Model 1520 || Isadora 3.07 USB key

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                        • Woland
                          Woland Tech Staff @ppp586 last edited by

                          @ppp586 said:

                          Could you tell me our Isadora V3 will support the kinect V2?

                           It is our plan to include this, yes.

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                            deflost @Woland last edited by

                            hello all, and a happy new year.

                            what is with asio and vst support in win version, it was promissed so often, till years? is it in?

                            thx for answer...

                            r.h.

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                            • Juriaan
                              Juriaan Tech Staff @deflost last edited by

                              @deflost

                              Hi there,

                              It is unsure, one of the Isadora Staff have to answer it, there are no signs about it in the released news sources on the forum so I doubt it.


                              @Woland Could you please ask Mark or this feature is planned for the upcoming 3.0 release, honestly this is a feature that we really need to make sure that Isadora stays relevant for Interactive work / installations / theatre pieces that rely on multiple audio outputs / multiple audio inputs + audio support for Windows of Isadora doesn't cut it.. Thanks buddy :)

                              Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
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                              Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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                                Eamonn Beta Silver last edited by

                                Hello,

                                I was wondering if there are any updates or rumors floating out there about when the big 3.0 release will be. I'm heading into a tech in a couple weeks for a big show with ten outputs and dreading the prospect of having to program it on Qlab...

                                Thanks,
                                Eamonn

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                                • ksateler
                                  ksateler last edited by

                                  Hi, any news about the release date? I lost my isadora usb key, and I prefer to wait for version 3 for buy again, because if I buy the old version 2.6,  then I pay again for the upgrade.

                                  Isadora 3 Running on Windows 10 / Asus ROG Strix G15 , Nvidia RTX 2060 , i7-10870H

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                                  • Woland
                                    Woland Tech Staff @ksateler last edited by Woland

                                    @ksateler said:

                                    if I buy the old version 2.6,  then I pay again for the upgrade.

                                    Actually a new USB Key Isadora 2 license would cost you $535 and the upgrade to Isadora 3 would only cost you $100 (since you'd have bought it after March 28th, 2018). Total cost: $635

                                    The price for a new Isadora 3 USB Key License is $650.

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                                      AshChristopher Beta Silver last edited by

                                      Really looking forward to this! 

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                                        GoddessMoon2017 Beta Silver @Woland last edited by

                                        @woland is there a projected date to when the new Izzy will be available?

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                                        • Woland
                                          Woland Tech Staff @GoddessMoon2017 last edited by

                                          @goddessmoon2017

                                          As soon as we have an official release date, we'll be sure to post in on the forum, Facebook, etc. :)

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                                          • Fred
                                            Fred @Woland last edited by

                                            @woland 

                                            I know this is a tough question, but I am liking the features of V3, I have been very busy on projects so not a lot of time for testing, but I am in a bit of a bind. I have a project that is presenting in 5 weeks. I have to finalise the software I use and I would prefer go with V3. It has been 3 months since the initial beta and lots of radio silence in between. Instead of a release date is it possible to get an end deadline, a date when the new version will definitely be done, I would like to put Isadora as the tool I will use but need to commit very soon.

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