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    • particlep
      particlep last edited by

      i've added a video re motion brushes and osc in emotion :

      [http://youtu.be/xGKtgnMA8is](http://youtu.be/xGKtgnMA8is)

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      • crystalhorizon
        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

        dear @particlep thats very kind of you doing the tutorial. Thank you so much. Will test it with the kinect this weekend.

        All the best,
        Alex

        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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        • C
          CLAUDE last edited by

          hello there, 
          I use eMotion over a year for my projection mapping video but since the latest version 0.7.1 
          several problems have emerged: 
          -My LeapMotion is not detected in LeapMotion tool options. 
          -MadMapper no longer receives the image via Syphon. 
          fortunately my Kenect work well with TuioKinect. 
          I hope a savior. 
          Thank you for your help. 
          CLAUDE

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          • David
            David last edited by

            Dear @particlep @Skulpture @feinsinn,
            As I was tweeking my leap motion for another project

            the new version of eMotion works out of the box with the leap motion.
            Here are quick steps to making it happen :
            1\. select the grid particle tool
            2\. go to window/current tool options
            3\. change values to width and Hight currently at 100 each to 50, then press create
            (I use smaller values hoping it wouldn't crash but It maybe doesn't change anything it crashed 5 times since
            I started this article.)
            4\. once the grid is up go to tools/leap or press Cmd+$
            5\. set fingers to "current tool" in the "Associated tools" and check the enabled button
            6. If you want to see the fingers positions you can check the boxes below. You might have to change the "translate values above" as shown in the attached picture.
            7\. Now choose tools/motion brushes - tweak the values
            8\. and voila depending on the force you applied you should see your fingers modifications
            This is as far as I got. Once this is understood drawing with brushes is relatively easy.
            It's really a shame not to be able to use this tool.
            I personally use it by filming the screen with screen flow and use the footage in another program then projected on my large drawings.
            Hope this helps.
            Best,
            David

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            • G
              geemoore last edited by

              Hi all
              Does anyone know where I can get emotion?
              Is apple motion the same but a version on? I have that now but it looks a lot different to the tutorials I've seen on line.
              Thanks iav :G)

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              • particlep
                particlep last edited by

                just adding an e makes for quite a difference.  .... links for both.

                motion : https://www.apple.com/uk/final-cut-pro/motion/
                emotion :  http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/
                the apple link will take you to a video special effect package.
                the link at am-cg dot net will take you to an experimental package in which one can generate visuals in real time based on parameters and live inputs.
                hopes this helps.

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                • crystalhorizon
                  crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                  @particlep yesterdas we have been in the Ars Electronica center in Linz/Austria. There they have a laser tracking system for their 16meter/9 meter floor. For our next performance in Mid November we can use 8 HD projectors for the wall and floor. So I can get Tuio/osc messages from their tracking system. The scaling is from 0 to 1. So your tutorial comes now really handy to test such kind if setup.

                  So I tried all your steps:
                  Tuio Pad into Osculator works fine
                  Osculator to Isadora works fine
                  In eMotion I cannot click into message type and select anything (see screenshot)
                  There is also no plus button as in the send window.
                  For the OSCtransmit actor I choose the same settings in your tutorial, but I dont understand where do I get what to fill out
                   in address.
                  Havent opened eMotion for a while, so it wanted to update
                  Maybe I can route Tuio directly into eMotion.
                  @Mark any news about Tuio implementation in the new Isadora?

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                  Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                  • particlep
                    particlep last edited by

                    @feinsinn your placing at linz sounds rather wonderful :)  really looking forward to what you make there.

                    thank you for your post, so good to know that the tutorials do help.  i too haven't picked up emotion for a while. i think it's something about emotion that the relationship with it becomes a little love hate !
                    so in this time of love ... i notice from your screen shots that you have no patch cord to the transmit of the osc transmit actor. this will be why you are not see in anything in the emotion osc window.  try connecting the trigger output from one of your osc listener actors to the transmit of the osc transmit actor.
                    i think this will cause all things to happen.
                    please please do let me know how you get on. xx

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                    • crystalhorizon
                      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                      @particlep thank you for your help! The project is something I did in february this year, you can have a look at this forum post: http://troikatronix.com/community/#/discussion/1064

                      You were completely right: I forgot about the transmit string, thanx for that one! The next message I get that I have a wrong OSCtype, see screenshot

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                      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                      • m_theater
                        m_theater last edited by

                        @feinsinn

                        emotion does have a couple of drawbacks regarding osc connectivity
                        in our tests the particle were generated the whole time rather then when we sended a message while using the osc routing
                        what we are trying now is to use tuio as the interface for particle generation and osc to modify the layer intensity, scripts etc.
                        concerning your message type problem
                        the current tool is a float,float,float type 
                        see the attached image
                        we hope that we can share our structure soon but it is to messy yet …
                        greetings from berlin
                        o+c.

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                        avk4.net

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                        • particlep
                          particlep last edited by

                          in returning to emotion this afternoon, i've had to update my version, even though the version i had was the latest version from the website.

                          as ever patience is needed when working with emotion.  
                          i see emotion crashing when i have the incorrect number of inputs to the osc multi transmit actor.
                          earlier this year the multi transmit had 3 input and it worked ok.  http://youtu.be/xGKtgnMA8is?t=43s
                          i did find some inconsistency between motion brushes working with osc input. i cannot say with any conclusive evidence this to be correct.

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                          • crystalhorizon
                            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                            @particlep yeah the 3 inputs did the trick! Great thank you so much.

                            I cant get no syphon from eMotion in Isadora. Via Syphoner it works but I have to cut the top. So scaling to a performer could be more tricky.
                            But at this moment the next factor is the stability, if its reliable to use in a performance.
                            Thank you again!
                            All the best,
                            Alex

                            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                            • particlep
                              particlep last edited by

                              @feinsinn great to hear that the inputs are good.

                              i struggled with syphon from emotion to isadora too.
                              i'll be interested to hear about what you experience with emotion with regard to stability and what direction your artistic decisions take as a result.

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                              • m_theater
                                m_theater last edited by

                                @feinsinn,

                                to activate the syphon output
                                you have to go into your prefs and give it a resolution
                                the default entry isn't working
                                then you have to activate the Framebuffer (debug -> use fbo)
                                great that the 3 float trick worked for you
                                best
                                clemens

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                                • crystalhorizon
                                  crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                  @m_theater thank you for the hint, syphon works now, great!

                                  I´m experience always a crash when clearing a layer. 

                                  Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                  • m_theater
                                    m_theater last edited by

                                    @feinsinn this bothered us the whole last week but we solved this yesterday by a script with a "fadeout + reset" cue

                                    it is strange we thought clearing a layer just means the particle are swopped but and reset is killing all infos but the reverse is true
                                    …

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                                    • particlep
                                      particlep last edited by

                                      i've added another video today in answer to :

                                      Is there a way to use osc to continuously generate particles?
                                      http://youtu.be/p8kF51fJjYA

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                                      • Skulpture
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        @particlep your youtube videos for eMotion are brill thanks!! 

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                                        • crystalhorizon
                                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                          @particlep another fan here of your tutorials!!

                                          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                          • particlep
                                            particlep last edited by

                                            :) thanks guys :)

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