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    • particlep
      particlep last edited by

      feinsinn thank you for your applause.  :)

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      • L
        lazandre last edited by

        @particlep
        I'm from the Philippines. I use Isadora for interactive projections for dance ballet shows.I discovered eMotion in this forum and followed tutorials of particlep. Tuio, OSC, Wii functions work! Great Thanks to particlep for sharing the tutorials. My only problem now is how to properly syphon eMotion. As suggested by m_theater, I've changed the resolution and activated the Frambuffer. Render window can now syphon but it displays a quad image instead. Please see attached images below. On the other hand, I tried working with the old version of eMotion in an Imac and syphon works perfectly. Here are the two scenarios: Scenario 1. eMotion: Latest 0.7.1 installed in a MacBook Pro Retina with OSX 10.9.2. Syphon Status: to activate syphon, I have to click "use FBO" but syphon displays a quad image. Additional Info: When I tried using a demo version of Syphoner by SIGMAMIX, Syphoner reads the eMotion render window without FBO being activated. But I wouldn't want to go this route. Scenario 2. eMotion: 0.6.9. installed in an iMac with OS X 10.6.8. Syphon Status: working, no need to enable anything in eMotion. Syphon to and from Madmapper, Modul8, and Isadora working perfectly. ---- I hope someone can help me figure out how to make syphon work with eMotion 0.7.1 66169f-syphon-debug-checked.tiff 20ac34-fbo-unchecked.tiff

        lazandre cawagas

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        • particlep
          particlep last edited by

          @lazandre you're welcome. i figured by sharing we could collectively learn more.

          well done for keeping version 0.6.9 working.
          right now i have no answers for you. sorry that sucks i know, however my approach has always been i don;t know how emotion is meant to work so i'll find out what i can do with it.
          i have always suspected that there are parts of emotion that are not fully implemented in the publicly released versions but still appear within it.  i can share with you that many times i've shut emotion down and walked way from it because it just wasn't being very useful.  
          sometime later i see something that answers the problem i had when i walked away ,,, and i go back and try again.
          i'm not sure what else i can add right now. sorry.

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          mac osx 10.12.6
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          • Bill Cottman
            Bill Cottman last edited by

            Very interesting comments here. I've been aware of eMotion for months but could not get a reliable download link. Yesterday it downloaded completely but I have not opened it yet. All these comments are giving me the correct frame of mind I need to approach eMotion. Thanks.

            http://www.BillCottman.com : Isadora3.0.8f09 with MBP OS X 10.11.6 in Minneapolis, MN

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            • L
              lazandre last edited by

              thanks particlep and vanderzee. particlep, your tutorials are really a great starting point for me to understand emotion. i was at a lost till i saw the tutorials.

              i'd also like to share some of my observations:

              1. Activate and deactivate "Map Wacom to current layer” item if you are not using wacom.  (At first anything I draw with pen or particle tool do not show up in the render window or the drawings are pulled by gravity on the left border of the render window. But when I deactivated the Map Wacom to current layer item, everything went well.

              2. Particles have a limit. You can only draw up to 99,999 particles. Inspector menu displays no. of pixels/objects of the current layer.

              3. Syphon can be activated by clicking “use FBO”. But for version 0.7.1, you’ll get a quad display.
              You can drag png, jpeg, movie files into the layers thru the “Scene” items in “Tools” to have a textured or movie background.  You can then scale, move, rotate the background in the Layer Geometry in Scene Options or click on the scene and use your trackpad. Scaling the picture/movie background will give you an option to alter the collisions, either with the scene or with the layer you just altered. (Because syphon is not functioning properly, the image or movie in the layer is also in a quad format.)

              4.  The text tool does not work in 0.7.1.  I notice that in any layer i create using the Text tool it has an underlying black mask background that is similar to the quad display i mentioned in my previous comment.

              Will post some more since there's a limit in the number of characters i can type in this comment window.

              Still hoping someone can figure out how to make the syphon work properly in 0.7.1 :)

              lazandre cawagas

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              • smartalec
                smartalec last edited by

                Thanks so much particlep and lazandre!

                I've got newest build of eMotion up and running with TUIOpad thanks to your help and tutorials. 
                I am going to be composing music and producing a show for our local professional ballet company next year and hoping to integrate eMotion, motion capture, Isadora and Ableton Live.
                I've got some fun investigation and experimentation ahead of me! 

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                • smartalec
                  smartalec last edited by

                  Hmmmm.

                  My eMotion 0.7.1 suddenly throws a 'this version out of date' at startup and shuts down. Is this happening to anybody else?
                  I got excited for a second thinking maybe there was an update but I am not seeing one anywhere.

                  www.smartalecproductions.com | MBP, i7, 16GB, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB

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                  • particlep
                    particlep last edited by

                    i too have the date thing.  i've seen this before.  i tried downloading again and got the same out of date thing.

                    [smartalec](/troikatronixforum/profile/7415/smartalec)  i've emailed the contact address re the out of date thing and put a link to this thread and the tutorial playlist i made last year and requested any information.
                    i think in the short term we simply have to wait and see what they come back with or keep an eye on the website http://www.am-cb.net/emotion
                    for any updates.
                    sorry i can't offer any more at this time.

                    isadora v3.0.7
                    mbp 2.6ghz i7
                    mac osx 10.12.6
                    dyslexic.

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                    • vanakaru
                      vanakaru last edited by

                      Set you computer clock back to 2014 and it should work.

                      MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                        I've changed the title of this thread ever so slightly to reflect the general topic of e-motion. :)

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                        • smartalec
                          smartalec last edited by

                          Thanks all. @vanakaru setting the clock back worked.

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                          • Marci
                            Marci last edited by

                            Heh - just came across same problem on every system I work on. Panicked tilI came here! /me wanders off to set clock back

                            rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
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                            • Marci
                              Marci last edited by

                              Just got a reply back from Adrien M....

                              "Thanks for your message,
                              A new release is available, you can download it there : [am-cb.net/doc/eMotion.zip](http://am-cb.net/doc/eMotion.zip) 
                              It will work until 2015/06/01, then you’ll need to download a new version.
                              Please notice that eMotion is an experimental project and is provided as it is, for non-commercial use only.
                              best,
                              Adrien"

                              rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
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                              • vanakaru
                                vanakaru last edited by

                                @Marci

                                The new one does not open on OS X 10.6.8.

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                                • Unfenswinger
                                  Unfenswinger last edited by

                                  Please notice that eMotion is an experimental project and is provided as it is, for non-commercial use only.

                                  What a shame, that's killed my interest and presumably is a fly in the ointment for a lot of users here. Maybe they'd be up for a paid version or a donation for commercial use.

                                  @unfenswinger
                                  Gone all PC...

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                                  • crystalhorizon
                                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                    I would pay for a commercial version

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                                    • smartalec
                                      smartalec last edited by

                                      New version worked fine for me on OS X 10.10.1

                                      I guess by fine I mean it opened and I did not get the error message. It is still quite buggy and crashes often so not really an option for dependable live performance.
                                      I am not complaining as it is offered as a free download. I would say that a further developed version would certainly seem to fill a niche for interactive projections and I would buy it.
                                      Anybody know of any other options similar to eMotion? Can we do that type of interaction in Izzy?
                                      Suppose I may have to go back to cobbling together Processing code if not...

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                                      • particlep
                                        particlep last edited by

                                        the adrien m and claire b company have grown considerably. looking at their website they now have a  team in place and lots of shows this year.

                                        i've downloaded version 0.7.6 and found an issue with the render window.
                                        have emailed for help.

                                        isadora v3.0.7
                                        mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                        mac osx 10.12.6
                                        dyslexic.

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                                        • crystalhorizon
                                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                          On their website is written 0.7.1 as latest download. Also my About is greyed out, so I am not sure what version is now on my system. After I made the upgrade, I cant make a grid anymore as I could before. 355259-screenshot-2015-01-19-13.44.23.png 02f71a-screenshot-2015-01-19-13.45.09.png

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                                          • particlep
                                            particlep last edited by

                                            i'm also seeing a shift on the am-cb website.  there is a programme of performances http://www.am-cb.net/agenda/calendrier/ and members of a team now.  i wonder if we might have to wait a while for a stable version of emotion to be available.

                                            i have to admit to thinking that if they aren't ready for emotion to be played with by other interested parties that possibly the programme should't be available to  play with ... just a thought ...

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                                            mac osx 10.12.6
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