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    2.6 Crashing - Need to switch back to 2.5

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    • mark
      mark @Lauri last edited by mark

      @lauri said:

      That's so strange.

       Well, if it was something related to the "Check Update" problem, you most definitely would have experienced a slowdown and potentially other strange behavior. Anyway, in a few minutes I'll have a second beta that includes a fix to your window problem, so I would suggest working with that once it arrives here.

      Best Wishes,
      Mark

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        Lauri @mark last edited by

        @mark said:

         Well, if it was something related to the "Check Update" problem, you most definitely would have experienced a slowdown and potentially other strange behaviour.

        It wasn't, I had checked "never" on the "Check Update".

        Anyway, in a few minutes I'll have a second beta that includes a fix to your window problem, so I would suggest working with that once it arrives here. Best Wishes, Mark

        Thanks, Mark, Super!!! I'll download and use that.

        Best wishes,

        Lauri

        MacPro (2013), 3.0GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon E5, RAM 64GB, Dual AMB FirePro D700, OSX 10.13.6
        MacBookPro (15 inch 2018), 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7, RAM 32GB, Radeon Pro Vega 20, OSX 10.14.6

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        • mark
          mark @Lauri last edited by mark

          @lauri and all,

          Here's another build. I've checked the "Check Update" bug (with the internet on and off) and the HAP memory leak bug, and both appear to be solved. I also fixed a bug with Isadora remembering the window positions when one Stage was full screen and the other was a preview. (This bug only happened if you did not have an external display attached.) 

          [EDIT: latest beta build is further down.]

          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • artoo
            artoo last edited by

            hi @mark,

            i've download this beta to try it today on my system (osx mavericks 10.9.2) and i still get the same crashes.

            and by the way i don't need to open a patch, isadora crash after few minutes/seconds even if there is no patch launched.

            Izzy 2.6.1 | MacPro (2013) 3.7GHz i7 16GB 2xAMD FirePro D500 | OSX 10.13.6
            Izzy 3.2 | MacbookPro M1Max (10/24 core) 32Go ram | OSX 12.2

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            • mark
              mark @artoo last edited by mark

              @artoo

              Can help me by doing the following:

              1) Open the Console (found in Applications > Utilities)
              2) Click the "Clear Display" button
              3) Startup Isadora
              4) Let it run until it crashes
              5) Click the view where the messages appear. 
              6) Choose Edit > Select All
              7) Choose File > Save Selection As...
              8) .zip the result and put it here

              I want to analyze that to see if it tells me something. 

              Thanks in Advance,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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              • artoo
                artoo @mark last edited by

                @mark

                here's the file:Tous les messages.log.zip

                hope that's helping

                artoo.

                Izzy 2.6.1 | MacPro (2013) 3.7GHz i7 16GB 2xAMD FirePro D500 | OSX 10.13.6
                Izzy 3.2 | MacbookPro M1Max (10/24 core) 32Go ram | OSX 12.2

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                • mark
                  mark @artoo last edited by

                  @artoo + Everyone

                  Thank you so much for the help!

                  There are hundreds of crashes happening per second... as shown by "Too many crashes in rapid succession! No crash report being written for pid XXXXX"

                  If you go to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports do you see ending in ".crash" for IzzyMoviePlayer64 or IzzyMoviePlayer32? (Must end with .crash to be useful.)

                  If you see those crash files, .zip two or three and send them to me.

                  But also, for everyone here: there seems to be a pattern that the only people having trouble are on Mac Pro machines. If you have a machine like that, and are willing to let me access it via Team Viewer for an hour, please send me a PM here. 

                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • artoo
                    artoo @mark last edited by

                    @mark

                    I've got some:logs.crash

                    thank you Mark.

                    (don't have Team Viewer right now but I will soon PM you...)

                    Izzy 2.6.1 | MacPro (2013) 3.7GHz i7 16GB 2xAMD FirePro D500 | OSX 10.13.6
                    Izzy 3.2 | MacbookPro M1Max (10/24 core) 32Go ram | OSX 12.2

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                      sommerdi @artoo last edited by

                      @mark

                      i had have some crashes. They look like as shown.

                      I had that only with two beamers connected.

                      My crash logs

                      Archiv.zip

                      OSX 14.7 / MBP 16 2.3 GHz i9 32GB / Radeon 5500 8GB
                      OSX 15.2 / MBP 16 M4 Max 64GB
                      Motu Ultralite MKIII & M4 / BM Intensity USB3 & UltraStudio Recorder 3G
                      located in Munich/Germany

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                      • Woland
                        Woland Tech Staff @mark last edited by Woland

                        @mark said:

                        But also, for everyone here: there seems to be a pattern that the only people having trouble are on Mac Pro machines. If you have a machine like that, and are willing to let me access it via Team Viewer for an hour, please send me a PM here. 

                         I have a Mac Pro with Teamviewer. Give me about 15 minutes to set her up with a monitor and power and she's all yours all day via Teamveiwer if you like. Hell, I don't have a show on at the moment, so you can have TeamViewer access for however long you need it. She's also on El Capitan, not High Sierra, which I gather might be a good thing for these tests. I'll email you the Teamviewer info once I have her set up.

                        Best wishes,

                        Woland (Lucas Wilson-Spiro)

                        TroikaTronix Technical Support
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                        • Woland
                          Woland Tech Staff last edited by

                          Specs:

                          (downloading 2.6 USB, 2.6 Standard, and the beta versions now for you)

                          Best wishes,

                          Woland

                          TroikaTronix Technical Support
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                          • Michel
                            Michel Izzy Guru @mark last edited by

                            @mark

                            sent you an email with the teamviewer ID/Pass, as a variant with Sierra installed.

                            Best Michel

                            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                            • Woland
                              Woland Tech Staff last edited by

                              and I just sent TeamViewer info for a Mac Pro running 10.11.6

                              I installed the 2.6 USB+Standard, and the 2.6 USB+Standard Beta for you.

                              Best wishes,

                              Woland

                              TroikaTronix Technical Support
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                              | Isadora Version: all of them | Mac Pro (Late 2013), macOS 10.14.6, 3.5GHz 6-core, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, Dual AMD FirePro D700s |

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                              • mark
                                mark last edited by mark

                                Dear All,

                                If anyone is game to give a new build a try, I'd really appreciate it. So far I've tested this one on 10.9, 10.10 and 10.12. I'll soon test it on 10.11. It seems solid, but more feedback is always welcome.

                                *** DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS BETA IF YOU ARE NOT EXPERIENCING A PROBLEM!!!!! ***

                                Isadora Standard Edition - Temporary Beta v2.6.0b3

                                Isadora USB Key Edition - Temporary Beta v2.6.0b3

                                Thanks,
                                Mark

                                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                • Woland
                                  Woland Tech Staff @mark last edited by

                                  @mark said:

                                  Dear All,
                                  If anyone is game to give a new build a try, I'd really appreciate it. So far I've tested this one on 10.9, 10.10 and 10.12. I'll soon test it on 10.11. It seems solid, but more feedback is always welcome.
                                  *** DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS BETA IF YOU ARE NOT EXPERIENCING A PROBLEM!!!!! ***
                                  Isadora Standard Edition - Temporary Beta v2.6.0b2
                                  Isadora USB Key Edition - Temporary Beta v2.6.0b2
                                  Thanks,
                                  Mark

                                   (This version is Temporary Beta 2.6.1b3)

                                  TroikaTronix Technical Support
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                                  Professional Services: https://support.troikatronix.com/support/solutions/articles/13000109444

                                  | Isadora Version: all of them | Mac Pro (Late 2013), macOS 10.14.6, 3.5GHz 6-core, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, Dual AMD FirePro D700s |

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                                  • mark
                                    mark @Woland last edited by

                                    @Woland 

                                    Thanks for the heads up. Fixed the text.

                                    Best,
                                    M

                                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                    • artoo
                                      artoo last edited by artoo

                                      Mark fixed the continuous crashes issue in the v2.6.1b3. this problem was about Hap codec and Mavericks system...as far as I understand... 

                                      to all users under osX 10.9 and osX 10.10: those systems will not be supported in the next realeases of isadora so it's definitivly time to forget them and to upgrade to siera or high siera.(i know it's hard to admit...)

                                      thank you again Mark.

                                      Izzy 2.6.1 | MacPro (2013) 3.7GHz i7 16GB 2xAMD FirePro D500 | OSX 10.13.6
                                      Izzy 3.2 | MacbookPro M1Max (10/24 core) 32Go ram | OSX 12.2

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                                      • mark
                                        mark @artoo last edited by mark

                                        @artoo said:

                                        Mark fixed the continuous crashes issue in the v2.6.1b3!!! this problem was about Hap codec and Mavericks system...as far as I understand... to all users under osX 10.9 and osX 10.10: those systems will not be supported in the next realeases of isadora so it's definitivly time to forget them and to upgrade to siera or high siera.(i know it's hard to admit...)

                                        Well, 10.9 for sure. We'll see about 10.10. As I told you privately, AVFoundation can't play HAP under 10.9, which was the source of your particular problem because you were running 10.9. One thing that's annoying about Mac OS is that the take things away from the operating system, unlike Windows, where operating system functions from Windows 3.1 _still_ work. In any case, we have to keep moving forward.

                                        The main thing that _everyone_ has to understand (not just about Isadora) is that the next macOS (10.14) will not run 32-bit applications. That's going to affect a lot of apps beyond Isadora, which also means absolutely no more QuickTime. So everyone should prepare keep this in mind.

                                        Best Wishes,
                                        Mark

                                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                        • mark
                                          mark last edited by Michel

                                          Dear All,

                                          The team and I have continued to test the 2.6.1b3 build. Thanks to @Michel and @Woland, I got access to two Mac Pros remotely – one with 10.12 and the other with 10.11. The 10.12 has been playing four movies continuously (2 x HAP and 2 x MP4) for hours now, and nothing bad has happened. (Of course, I can't turn off the internet since I'm accessing them remotely. Hopefully Michel and Woland can try this themselves tomorrow)

                                          Of course, I didn't take the time to run the same patch on 2.6 (the public release) though I can totally sure it would crash when playing HAP movies because of the memory leak.

                                          For any of you reading this: if you have a patch that you can run for an hour while you're doing something else (we all gotta eat, right?) it would certainly be appreciated by us if you downloaded v2.6.1b3 and gave it a go.

                                          I'm calling it a night for now. @mc_monte and @DusX are still running tests.

                                          Isadora Standard Edition - Temporary Beta v2.6.0b3

                                          Isadora USB Key Edition - Temporary Beta v2.6.0b3

                                          We'll keep you updated.

                                          Best Wishes,
                                          Mark

                                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                          • gapworks
                                            gapworks @mark last edited by

                                            @mark i  installed the beta 0b3 in the art space where we premiere on sunday. mac mini and sierra crash after 15min max. for now i just stick to the v2.2.2  which is slow, but stable on their computer.

                                            and as said 2.6 on my macbook pro high sierra works great! 

                                            Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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