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    Isadora 3 - Status Report from Mark

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    • mark
      mark @bonemap last edited by

      @bonemap said:

      It appears a bit harsh to sign up to this form and drop what appears to be a redundant licensing clause without pointing to current information or specifications.

      Well, I appreciate knowing this actually. We have to take care with these things. I mean, it super easy to install NiTE on MacOS using Homebrew, and just a tiny bit more tricky on Windows (though it could probably be handled by a script.) If we force the users to install it then I think we're safe. (Homebrew, by the way is another indication about this: https://github.com/totakke/hom...)

      Still, I'll write on the github for the Processing plugin I mentioned above and see what they say.

      Best Wishes,
      Mark

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        ppp586 @mark last edited by

        @mark said:

        @bonemap said:
        It appears a bit harsh to sign up to this form and drop what appears to be a redundant licensing clause without pointing to current information or specifications.
        Well, I appreciate knowing this actually. We have to take care with these things. I mean, it super easy to install NiTE on MacOS using Homebrew, and just a tiny bit more tricky on Windows (though it could probably be handled by a script.) If we force the users to install it then I think we're safe. (Homebrew, by the way is another indication about this: https://github.com/totakke/hom...)
        Still, I'll write on the github for the Processing plugin I mentioned above and see what they say.
        Best Wishes,
        Mark

         Hi,Mark 

        I know that Millumin software support Kinect v2 in Macos ,and it is easy to use that the software check the kinect and install the drivers for it automatically.  

        Could you tell me our Isadora V3 will support the kinect V2?

        Thank you!

        Jimmy Zhang

        Running in : Razer Laptop, GeForce RTX2060,6GB VRAM, 9th Gen intel Core i7-9750H 6 Cores,16G RAM, Windows 10 Home-1903Version || Kinect Xbox One-- Model 1520 || Isadora 3.07 USB key

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        • Woland
          Woland Tech Staff @ppp586 last edited by

          @ppp586 said:

          Could you tell me our Isadora V3 will support the kinect V2?

           It is our plan to include this, yes.

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            deflost @Woland last edited by

            hello all, and a happy new year.

            what is with asio and vst support in win version, it was promissed so often, till years? is it in?

            thx for answer...

            r.h.

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            • Juriaan
              Juriaan Tech Staff @deflost last edited by

              @deflost

              Hi there,

              It is unsure, one of the Isadora Staff have to answer it, there are no signs about it in the released news sources on the forum so I doubt it.


              @Woland Could you please ask Mark or this feature is planned for the upcoming 3.0 release, honestly this is a feature that we really need to make sure that Isadora stays relevant for Interactive work / installations / theatre pieces that rely on multiple audio outputs / multiple audio inputs + audio support for Windows of Isadora doesn't cut it.. Thanks buddy :)

              Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
              Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
              Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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                Eamonn Beta Silver last edited by

                Hello,

                I was wondering if there are any updates or rumors floating out there about when the big 3.0 release will be. I'm heading into a tech in a couple weeks for a big show with ten outputs and dreading the prospect of having to program it on Qlab...

                Thanks,
                Eamonn

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                  ksateler last edited by

                  Hi, any news about the release date? I lost my isadora usb key, and I prefer to wait for version 3 for buy again, because if I buy the old version 2.6,  then I pay again for the upgrade.

                  Isadora 3 Running on Windows 10 / Asus ROG Strix G15 , Nvidia RTX 2060 , i7-10870H

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                  • Woland
                    Woland Tech Staff @ksateler last edited by Woland

                    @ksateler said:

                    if I buy the old version 2.6,  then I pay again for the upgrade.

                    Actually a new USB Key Isadora 2 license would cost you $535 and the upgrade to Isadora 3 would only cost you $100 (since you'd have bought it after March 28th, 2018). Total cost: $635

                    The price for a new Isadora 3 USB Key License is $650.

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                      AshChristopher Beta Silver last edited by

                      Really looking forward to this! 

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                        GoddessMoon2017 Beta Silver @Woland last edited by

                        @woland is there a projected date to when the new Izzy will be available?

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                        • Woland
                          Woland Tech Staff @GoddessMoon2017 last edited by

                          @goddessmoon2017

                          As soon as we have an official release date, we'll be sure to post in on the forum, Facebook, etc. :)

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                            Fred @Woland last edited by

                            @woland 

                            I know this is a tough question, but I am liking the features of V3, I have been very busy on projects so not a lot of time for testing, but I am in a bit of a bind. I have a project that is presenting in 5 weeks. I have to finalise the software I use and I would prefer go with V3. It has been 3 months since the initial beta and lots of radio silence in between. Instead of a release date is it possible to get an end deadline, a date when the new version will definitely be done, I would like to put Isadora as the tool I will use but need to commit very soon.

                            http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
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                            • Woland
                              Woland Tech Staff last edited by

                              @fred said:

                              @woland I know this is a tough question, but I am liking the features of V3, I have been very busy on projects so not a lot of time for testing, but I am in a bit of a bind. I have a project that is presenting in 5 weeks. I have to finalise the software I use and I would prefer go with V3. It has been 3 months since the initial beta and lots of radio silence in between. Instead of a release date is it possible to get an end deadline, a date when the new version will definitely be done, I would like to put Isadora as the tool I will use but need to commit very soon.

                               I will discuss this with Mark on Monday and get back to you. We are all working as hard as we can on Isadora 3, especially Mark.

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                              • Bennnid
                                Bennnid last edited by

                                1st Thanks for you amazing work !

                                Do you have an idea of a 

                                month regarding the release? waiting to choose the osX update...

                                thanks a lot !

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                                • Juriaan
                                  Juriaan Tech Staff @Bennnid last edited by

                                  @bennnid

                                  Hi there, sadly there is no release date yet. They are working around the clock to get it out :) Keep an eye out on the social platforms of Isadora to get a notifaction when the new version is out :)

                                  Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
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                                  Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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                                  • mark
                                    mark @Fred last edited by Woland

                                    @fred said:

                                    I know this is a tough question, but I am liking the features of V3, I have been very busy on projects so not a lot of time for testing, but I am in a bit of a bind. I have a project that is presenting in 5 weeks. I have to finalise the software I use and I would prefer go with V3. It has been 3 months since the initial beta and lots of radio silence in between. Instead of a release date is it possible to get an end deadline, a date when the new version will definitely be done, I would like to put Isadora as the tool I will use but need to commit very soon.

                                    Hello everybody, it's Mark, rising from the bowels of coding.

                                    I know everybody wants us to set a date. And, the fact is, we have a date in mind that's not very far away. So then, you might rightly ask, why are we not saying that date out loud?

                                    Because we don't want to promise something and then not make it, which we've already done with our original release date.

                                    I've consulted with two close colleagues -- one who worked at Apple for many years and other who has been a consultant to Adobe since Photoshop 1.0 -- in other words, high level experts. I tell them I'm freaking the "f" out because we're late, and they both say the same thing: don't rush because of your anxiety. If you release a dog you'll lose users forever. If you're late, they'll forgive you.

                                    And that's the road we're taking.

                                    Four weeks ago there were 110+ significant crashes listed in our bug database. Now there are 16 -- some of which only happen under relatively unusual/bizarre situations. As of this Monday (Feb 4) there were 210+ "failures" (i.e., stuff not working right, importance varying from significant to cosmetic) and now, three days later, that number is 150. These failed items will fall off relatively quickly.

                                    In addition, we have had two special beta testers -- one on Mac and one on PC -- that are using the beta for significant projects that are live right now. Because of this, a handful of super serious bugs and/or reliability issues that might have escaped our attention have been fixed.

                                    In other words, it's getting close. And I do believe we can make the date we have in mind. But I'm still not going to say it out loud... not just yet.

                                    Honestly folks, it's coming up on a year since I started converting Isadora to 64 bit and adding the new features; I've never worked so hard for such a long period in my whole life. The team is working just as hard. We must deliver you the best and most totally reliable version of Isadora ever if we're going to continue to thrive in the future.

                                    We'll give you a definite date as soon as we can be 100% sure we'll meet it.

                                    Sincerely,
                                    Mark

                                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                      bonemap Izzy Guru @mark last edited by

                                      @mark said:

                                      Mark, rising from the bowels of coding.

                                       It appears to be a very rarefied situation at Isadora HQ. I feel the pain and frustration of waiting, but empathise with the pace of development. The torch still burns. And I have deep respect for Mark’s ambition to reach the next level with the Isadora platform. We will enjoy many more years of relevant and timely features that pay back our patience and investment. Power to the code!

                                      Best wishes

                                      Bonemap

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                                        Aolis @mark last edited by

                                        @mark 

                                        This is a very reasonable way of moving forward.

                                        Thank you, Mark. 

                                        We have your back. 100%

                                        -Alex

                                        Media Artist & Teacher
                                        MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
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                                        • SWDA
                                          SWDA last edited by

                                          Just want to add my support as well. Looking forward to the release but would rather it be right the first time and you feel good about it. 

                                          take care,

                                          Sheldon

                                          Sheldon B Smith
                                          Adjunct Professor Mills College at Northeastern University
                                          Co-artistic director Smith/Wymore Disappearing Acts
                                          smithwymore.org
                                          sh.smith@northeastern.edu

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                                          • mark
                                            mark last edited by mark

                                            Hello All,


                                            As further evidence of how close we're getting, here's the Isadora 3 Beta being used live to handle the video playback for the premiere of "Happiness Machine" by the world-reknowned Klangforum Wien last night in Stuttgart, Germany. The piece conisted of ten short films by women filmmakers scored by ten female composers,  interspersed with monologues performed by members of the ensemble.

                                            Overall, Isadora provided nearly three hours of continuous video playback over 22 scenes, and performed perfectly. 

                                            All of this was done on a recently purchased Mack Book Pro running Mojave.

                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Additional Technial Details

                                            Isadora is not only sending the films themselves to the main beamer, but also sending a synchronized recording of the conductor to 30+ tiny monitors mounted on the music stands of the performers, allowing them to stay in sync with the film. This was accomplished by creating one movie (3000 x 1080 px); the left portion consisting of the full 1920x1080 film, the right had a smaller recording of the conductor. Two Chopper actors were used split the image and those outputs were fed to the beamer (main film) and the 30 mini-monitors.

                                            Each movie had three tracks of audio: two containing additional backing sounds for each film and the third sending audio timecode (LTC) to the audio conrol system. The audio output was handled by a MOTU Ultra Light USB audio card.

                                            At the request of some of the filmmakers, we even did some last minute color correction using the HSL Adjust and Contrast Adjust actors.


                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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