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    [FIXED, DOWNLOAD LINK] NDI 4 watcher only 640x360?

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    • mark
      mark last edited by

      @laurentR @SWDA 

      Please download this Catalina notarized version of the NDI Plugin 0.9.7 and report back if it works for you. Catalina didn't complain for me.

      Best Wishes,
      Mark

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • laurentR
        laurentR @mark last edited by

        @mark

        Thank you very much Mark, it works for me on Catalina 10.15.3

        MBP 15' 2019 & MBP 13' 2015 - OSX10.14 & MP 2.8Ghz QC Xeon + GTX660 - OSX10.12 / Isadora 2.6.1/3.2 - Located France

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        • mark
          mark @laurentR last edited by

          @laurentr said:

          Thank you very much Mark, it works for me on Catalina 10.15.3

           Excellent.

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • SWDA
            SWDA @mark last edited by

            @mark

            Phew! Thanks so much! Seems to work fine so far.

            Sheldon

            Sheldon B Smith
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            • Z
              ziopix last edited by

              Hi,


              It seems I have the same problem, I downloaded the "ndi-watcher-v0.9.8.zip" running on Isadora 3.0.8f12 on macOS Mojave and the output is locked to 640x360 px.


              Any suggestions?


              Thank you

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              • jfg
                jfg @ziopix last edited by jfg

                @ziopix

                i have the same problem too:


                works well with 3.0.7


                in the Actor help you find:


                but on the NDI Website I have only found NDI 4.5 (installed)

                https://ndi.tv/tools/

                where can I find 4.6 ?

                EDIT: it seems that 4.5 on the NDI website is 4.6 https://forums.newtek.com/thre...

                Jean-François

                • Izzy 3.2.6
                - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                • A range of deployable older Macs
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                • mark
                  mark @jfg last edited by mark

                  @jfg @ziopix

                  where can I find 4.6 ?

                  I need to make the text of the plugin more clear. It uses v4.6 of the NDI library. I should use the work uses instead of requires, the NDI library is already inside the plugin. (However if your source is an NDI 3 source then maybe there will be problems. I've never tried that.) 

                  Also the NDI website is wrong as indicated in this post. The current version is in fact 4.6.1.

                  That said, I have no problem receiving 1920 x 1080 and other resolutions on MacOS Mojave. I used NDISyphon to convert a Syphon Signal from Simple Server (the test program provided with Syphon) and read it in Isadora. It gives me the full resolution.


                  What are you using as a source?

                  If you use NDI Syphon to convert it to a Syphon signal, and then read that signal with the Syphon Receiver actor in Isadora, what resolution do you get?

                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • Juriaan
                    Juriaan Tech Staff @mark last edited by Juriaan

                    Hmmm, I can't replicate this. I tried with Resolume / other programs that can do NDI Natively and sent it to Isadora. They all reported the correct resolution.

                    Tested programs;

                    • Resolume Arena 6.x
                    • TouchDesigner 2020
                    • Isadora loopback (Shapes > Virtual Stage > Send over NDI > Grab it with a Watcher and sent it to Stage 1)

                    Tested setup;

                    Isadora 3.0.7 (stable) - Default install (Windows 10)

                    Isadora 3.x (latest stable) - Default install (Windows 10)

                    Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
                    Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
                    Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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                    • jfg
                      jfg @mark last edited by

                      @mark

                      NDI Source>> NDI Syphon >> Isadora give always the correct resolution in Isadora but by a direct connection over the actor NDI 4 with 3 different sources I get only a width of 640. I used as sources:

                      - iPhone 7 with EpocCam (1280x720) or JustWifiCam (1920x1080)

                      - New Tek NDI Scan Converter to get e.g the desktop (3840x1200)

                      I have the last NDI Tools installed.

                      best

                      Jean-François 

                      • Izzy 3.2.6
                      - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                      - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                      Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                      - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                      • A range of deployable older Macs
                        Located in Bremen, Germany
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                      • DusX
                        DusX Tech Staff @jfg last edited by

                        @jfg

                        I also, can't reproduce this issue currently.
                        I'll try a fresh install now that I have my PC sending a few NDI streams.

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                        • mark
                          mark @jfg last edited by mark

                          @jfg said:

                          NDI Source>> NDI Syphon >> Isadora give always the correct resolution in Isadora but by a direct connection over the actor NDI 4 with 3 different sources I get only a width of 640.

                          I also tried with New Tek NDI Scan Converter grabbing a window from Safari. Works as expected (i.e., is not limited to 640x360.)


                          Are you sure you have v0.9.8 of the NDI Watcher? Please

                          1) In Isadora, choose Help > Open Plugin Folder > TroikaTronix Actor Plugins
                          2) Select the NDI Watcher.izzyplug plugin
                          3) In the Finder, choose File > Get Info

                          The version number should be v0.9.8.


                          Best Wishes,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                          • jfg
                            jfg @mark last edited by

                            @mark

                            best

                            Jean-François 

                            • Izzy 3.2.6
                            - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                            - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                            Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                            - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                            • A range of deployable older Macs
                              Located in Bremen, Germany
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                            • mark
                              mark @jfg last edited by mark

                              @jfg

                              Are you running NDI Scan Converter on the same computer as Isadora? If not, please try this and see if this makes a difference.

                              I have this feeling that NDI is forcing the resolution lower if the network is too slow, etc.

                              I've now tested on EpocCam and it runs at 1280x720 as expected. (Though the frames are quite sporadic coming in over the network.)

                              Best Wishes,
                              Mark

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                              • jfg
                                jfg @mark last edited by

                                @mark

                                I am running NDI Scan Converter on the same computer.

                                I have tried:

                                -  with another user with basic system on the same computer (MacPro 2012)

                                - with two different users on my MacBookPro

                                - erased the NDI 4 Watcher, download from Isadora website a new one and reinstall.

                                always with the same result.

                                Looking through preferences files but see nothing strange

                                 ?????

                                best

                                Jean-François

                                • Izzy 3.2.6
                                - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                                - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                                Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                                - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                                • A range of deployable older Macs
                                  Located in Bremen, Germany
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                                • jfg
                                  jfg @mark last edited by

                                  @mark

                                  I have tried with iPhone/EpocCam>>NDI virtual input >>> Isadora Live Capture>> Video In Watcher and I get the right resolution: 1280x720

                                  • Izzy 3.2.6
                                  - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                                  - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                                  Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                                  - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                                  • A range of deployable older Macs
                                    Located in Bremen, Germany
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                                  • jfg
                                    jfg @mark last edited by

                                    @mark

                                    if I use the NDI Virtual Input in the NDI 4 Watcher I get also a 640 resolution

                                    best

                                    Jean-François

                                    • Izzy 3.2.6
                                    - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                                    - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                                    Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                                    - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                                    • A range of deployable older Macs
                                      Located in Bremen, Germany
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                                    • liminal_andy
                                      liminal_andy @jfg last edited by

                                      @jfg What resolution do you see if you open the same source in NDI Studio Monitor?

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                                      • jfg
                                        jfg @liminal_andy last edited by

                                        @liminal_andy

                                        I just made a test and recorded the signal from Scan Converter with NDI Studio Monitor and it is the right size, in this case the desktop size 3840x1200. I get the same if I send the signal  Scan Converter>>NDI>Syphon>>Syphon simple client.

                                        • Izzy 3.2.6
                                        - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                                        - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                                        Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                                        - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                                        • A range of deployable older Macs
                                          Located in Bremen, Germany
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                                        • jfg
                                          jfg @mark last edited by

                                          @mark

                                          With exactly the same configuration it works fine with 3.0.7 and not with 3.0.8f12.

                                          It works too with 3.0.8b29. Unfortunately I erased the other Beta version.

                                          best

                                          Jean-François 

                                          • Izzy 3.2.6
                                          - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                                          - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                                          Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                                          - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                                          • A range of deployable older Macs
                                            Located in Bremen, Germany
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                                          • mark
                                            mark @jfg last edited by mark

                                            @jfg

                                            OK, there is something weird. v0.9.8 on my drive worked. v0.9.8 from the add-ons page showed the problems you mentioned.

                                            Please try v0.9.9 and report back. If it solves the problem, I will place not the add-ons page.

                                            ndi-watcher-v0.9.9.zip

                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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