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    Epoccam Feature Requests for Kinoni?

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    • S
      stj last edited by

      @ Kinoni

      I have just tested EpoCam HD in rehearsals and performances on an ad-hoc network. Works well. However, on an iphone (any smartphone?) you need to take out the SIM card, otherwise EpoCam looses the network connection when you receive a phone call.

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      • Michel
        Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

        @Kinoni

        You are right, the last time I checked it (quite a while ago) it did not work. And the message "disconnected from wireless network" maked me think it is still the same. But it does work.

        Best
        Michel

        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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        • Kinoni
          Kinoni last edited by

          @stj

          This is a known limitation on iOS, apps cannot access camera while on background. I guess it is the same with Android. A workaround for removing SIM card could be to first turn on airplane mode and then turn on WiFi.
          @Michel
          You are right, the text is misleading. Good that wired connection works now, I cannot even test it myself with MacBook Air :-)
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          • Aolis
            Aolis last edited by

            Thank you for the feedback on how the wireless logic works! On my phone I've been able to simply put it in airplane mode and then turn the Wi-Fi back on and am no longer interrupted by calls. No need to remove the Sim card. I haven't noticed the access CPU load is being a problem but if I started using this in more complicated projects that would definitely be something that would getting my way. Again thank you so much for this amazing app!!!

            Media Artist & Teacher
            MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
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            • crystalhorizon
              crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

              @kinoni had a rehearsal yesterday with 2 iphones, worked really well. so for a performance I´m thinking to get a wifi router to have a safer signal. Is there one you can recommend?

              The flightmode trick works also, thanx!

              Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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              • Kinoni
                Kinoni last edited by

                @feinsinn I am no network expert but here are some tips. As mentioned above you should use less crowded 5 GHz frequency band, so if you are buying a router check that it supports separate 5 GHz network. I guess in rehearsal there are not so many wireless devices interfering as during a performance with audience, so connection quality is likely to get worse. Using lower resolutions will help here as they use less bandwidth.

                Good luck with the performance, I'm feeling some pressure here if the app crashes in the middle :-)
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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  I think @feinsinn will be the first user to use the app is a true performance setting. Will be interesting to see how it goes :)

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                  • jhoepffner
                    jhoepffner last edited by

                    Dear Skulpture,

                    I think he is not the first one! I used it for a performance November 17… I first used AirBeam Pro before and I had problem with WiFi (same with Kinoni) but principally with the way AirBeam works with orientation, trying to correct and adapt vertical or horizontal view.
                    The way I use it now is avoiding HD (too much bandwith) and putting the WiFi router on stage (link to the computer via RJ45), with a visual contact to the iPod. There is some glitch and a little delay, but the performer is acting like using a real iPhone, so everything right. It's important to avaoid the double WiFi (iPod to router and router to computer). The show is on tour now, and there is no hotline call from the technician… I send a picture who illustrate it.
                    Happy new year.
                    Jacques Hoepffner

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                    • jhoepffner
                      jhoepffner last edited by

                      you can also watch a teaser here (in French…)

                      https://vimeo.com/81502752

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                      • R
                        Rick last edited by

                        Ah, you have me beat by a week Jacques! My project opened on Nov 26 with two iPhones. Photo attached.

                        Happy New Year from the south of France,
                        Rick

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                        • Kinoni
                          Kinoni last edited by

                          @[jhoepffner](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/15/jhoepffner), @[Rick](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/4822/Rick) 
                          That is so cool to see how your app is actually used! Thanks a lot for posting photos and videos.
                          Related to performance in general we have noticed that newer iPhones work better in general - there is a big difference between for example iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 in delay (faster video processing and network), quality (camera hardware) and stability (no CPU overload causing network timeouts). Also our other iOS test devices such as iPad 2 and iPod touch (4th generation) much perform worse than iPhone 5\. Upgrading iOS hardware is surely expensive but might be worth trying if delay is an issue.
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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            Sorry @jhoepffner only just seen this now.

                            Didn't know about your piece - Looks great!

                            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                              stj last edited by

                              @ Kinoni
                              Just received my new iphone 5S. Works well in terms of speed, colors and stability, but the quality in low-light situations is much worse than the 4S and 5 models (video is much, much darker). It seems to be a software problem, because the MoviePro app allows me to use the 5S video mode perfectly in low light conditions.
                              Your MultiCam app works beautifully with my 2 cameras in HD quality, by the way :-)
                              Best, Stephan

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                              • Kinoni
                                Kinoni last edited by

                                @stj

                                Thanks for pointing out the issue in low-light situations. Looks like Apple recently added "low light boost" option to latest iPhones, we will experiment with that option to see if it makes any difference. Would you like to have it always enabled or is it better to have an option to enable it manually?
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                                • S
                                  stj last edited by

                                  @ Kinoni

                                  Thanks for your quick reply!
                                  Many lighting situations in theater are "low light", but not all of them - my guess is that that a manual option would be sufficient for most of us. Maybe someone else wants to comment?
                                  Best, Stephan

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                                  • flick
                                    flick last edited by

                                    So far I can't get Epoccam to send anything to isadora.

                                    Epoccam viewer pro sees the feed, but I can't get it to show up in Isadora in live capture previews.

                                    Do I need Core / Quartz / Syphon etc? Or a certain version of Isadora? Not sure where to start problem-solving.

                                    I'm on OSX 10.9.2

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                                    • Michel
                                      Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                      you need the "syphon to video" or "syphon to image" actor. What version of Isadora are you using?

                                      Best
                                      Michel

                                      Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                      • flick
                                        flick last edited by

                                        Wow!  That was easy Michel.  I just got the latest pre-release and it works without further ado.

                                        Much fun testing to be done.

                                        www.flickharrison.com

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                                        • flick
                                          flick last edited by

                                          @skulpture - I think if you bottleneck the wifi signal with camera data, either at the router or at the mac antennae, it's the same thing.  But a router would have better range and signal clarity.

                                          But if you only have 802.11g on the mac, then you are better off with 802.11n router for wireless cams and hardwire to the mac (or even 802.11ac, maybe overkill).

                                          Better / more antennaes on the router would give you better overall performance... you can set the channel / frequency to get the best signal.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11n#Data_rates

                                          But don't you need to eat up a thunderbolt port with an ethernet adapter?  That seems like a waste!  Sounds like you have a MDP macbook, hopefully with ethernet port...

                                          On the other hand, I've found in times past that display port interfered with macbook wifi antennae.  Also advantageous to put the antennae (router) where you want it (closer to stage and cams, away from power cables and other transmitters) and the macbook where you want it... dedicated components always have a bit of an advantage.

                                          www.flickharrison.com

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                                          • primaldivine
                                            primaldivine last edited by

                                            _@Kinoni
                                            _

                                            _I forgot to mention that app should work on OS X 10.7 Lion and later, probably not on OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard._

                                            Do you have any plans to include Snow Leopard, 10.6.8 or will it only be 10.7 forwards? thanks for the great work you are doing

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