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    Motion Control Particles (e-motion software)

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    • P
      PatrickPagano last edited by

      I have seen some discussions on particles recently and have had a request for two dancers to be moving with a sheet and for their movements to control or excite a particle system. The director did not like the 200Euro pricetag for NI-mate. UUgh. So now i have 10 days to make a motion controlled particle genertaor. Any tips would be appreciated. I would like to make it simple so that a camera looking at a stage will excite the particles, i have just not fooled with particles yet.

      thanks in advance for any help
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      • MatthewH
        MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

        If you have or can afford a Kinect, OSCeleton or Freds Skeleton Server can probably do what NI Mate would have though not quite as easily.

        Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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        • vanakaru
          vanakaru last edited by

          Take a look at eMotion

          http://www.am-cb.net/emotion
          I was never able to figure out how to use it for real, but I am not too good at these things anyway.
          There is an interesting program on windows EyesWeb. I used it a lot about 7-8 years ago. It is free(at least it was) and quite powerful for tracking objects off video stream. What they are up to today I do not know.
          http://iswa.fisica.unina.it/index.php/eyesweb

          MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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          • mark
            mark last edited by

            Dear Patrick,

            Well, it all depends on the "sheet" you intend to track. What's that like? Is there a way to use the Luminance Key or Chroma Key actor to isolate the sheet? If so, then you should be able to use Eyes or Eyes++ to track it's position, and feed the horz/vert coordinates into the 3D Particles actor.
            See Skulpture's blog, under "Basic Motion Tracking" on how to take the video from Luminance Key or Chroma Key and use it with Eyes or Eyes++.
            Best Wishes,
            Mark

            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            • bruper
              bruper last edited by

              Hi, eMotion looks very interesting, is there a way to access it from Isadora?

              17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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              • mark
                mark last edited by

                Link for eMotion please... google just brings up references to "emition", i.e., the feeling.

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  @Mark 

                  http://www.am-cb.net/emotion

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                  • mark
                    mark last edited by

                    Thanks G. Will take a look to see if it has Syphon or some other way to access it.

                    Best Wishes,
                    Mark

                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      Its heavily Quartz Based so the possibility of using Syphon will be very high. 

                      It looks like its been updated since I last used it so maybe its a bit more user friendly these days. I remember when I used it over a year ago I looked for the Quartz Composition location but it was not file based like Izzy.

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        Well, looking through the menus I don't see options to get data (or images) in or out. I may be quartz based at some level, but it's a proper application -- i.e., it's not a quartz patch you can somehow deconstruct or get access to.

                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          This might help:

                          [http://vimeo.com/album/10747/video/1008937](http://vimeo.com/album/10747/video/1008937)
                          all videos;
                          [http://vimeo.com/album/10747](http://vimeo.com/album/10747)

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • vanakaru
                            vanakaru last edited by

                            @Mark there is Syphon client option for layer. I am not sure about output though.

                            MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                            • bruper
                              bruper last edited by

                              It has OSC send/receive...

                              17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                              • bruper
                                bruper last edited by

                                I can send Android to eMotion and control some things and can send to OSCulator; after that I cannot advance...

                                17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                • bruper
                                  bruper last edited by

                                  I'm finally able to use eMotion on Izzy from touchOSC via Osculator and Syphon, making progress :)

                                  17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                  • Skulpture
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    A screen recording or basic tutorial video would be great @bruper ;)

                                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                    • vanakaru
                                      vanakaru last edited by

                                      Wow, I knew there will be someone!

                                      MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                                      • dbini
                                        dbini last edited by

                                        Nice one Bruno. the chain gets longer and more complicated.

                                        John Collingswood
                                        taikabox.com
                                        2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                        plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                                        • bruper
                                          bruper last edited by

                                          Wow, it's an honour to see this interest from the big guys! So, from the basic just in case: I turn on Wifi on my Android smartphone, put same IP on TouchOSC as the one in my MBP, launch OSCulator, select same OSC port on the input, on the OSC routing select local host, 9000. Launch eMotion, select O on the tools for OSC, receive, 9000, update I put full on 10. Launch Syphon Recorder, Launch Isadora, QCSyphonclient+imagetovideo+projector: Done
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                                          17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                          • particlep
                                            particlep last edited by

                                            i've played with emotion again this afternoon.  i was able to connect osc values from isadora to parameters in emotion and see things move/change/happen.

                                            the breakthrough with emotion for me was seeing an output.
                                            i think i might soon need to have a look at syphon.

                                            isadora v3.0.7
                                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                            mac osx 10.12.6
                                            dyslexic.

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