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    • Unfenswinger
      Unfenswinger last edited by

      Please notice that eMotion is an experimental project and is provided as it is, for non-commercial use only.

      What a shame, that's killed my interest and presumably is a fly in the ointment for a lot of users here. Maybe they'd be up for a paid version or a donation for commercial use.

      @unfenswinger
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      • crystalhorizon
        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

        I would pay for a commercial version

        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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        • smartalec
          smartalec last edited by

          New version worked fine for me on OS X 10.10.1

          I guess by fine I mean it opened and I did not get the error message. It is still quite buggy and crashes often so not really an option for dependable live performance.
          I am not complaining as it is offered as a free download. I would say that a further developed version would certainly seem to fill a niche for interactive projections and I would buy it.
          Anybody know of any other options similar to eMotion? Can we do that type of interaction in Izzy?
          Suppose I may have to go back to cobbling together Processing code if not...

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          • particlep
            particlep last edited by

            the adrien m and claire b company have grown considerably. looking at their website they now have a  team in place and lots of shows this year.

            i've downloaded version 0.7.6 and found an issue with the render window.
            have emailed for help.

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            • crystalhorizon
              crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

              On their website is written 0.7.1 as latest download. Also my About is greyed out, so I am not sure what version is now on my system. After I made the upgrade, I cant make a grid anymore as I could before. 355259-screenshot-2015-01-19-13.44.23.png 02f71a-screenshot-2015-01-19-13.45.09.png

              Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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              • particlep
                particlep last edited by

                i'm also seeing a shift on the am-cb website.  there is a programme of performances http://www.am-cb.net/agenda/calendrier/ and members of a team now.  i wonder if we might have to wait a while for a stable version of emotion to be available.

                i have to admit to thinking that if they aren't ready for emotion to be played with by other interested parties that possibly the programme should't be available to  play with ... just a thought ...

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                • PaulAckerman
                  PaulAckerman last edited by

                  eMotion is not stable unfortunately. They seem to be happy only using it for themselves so no one else can duplicate the results. I came across Z-Vector recently which looks great. Created by the NI-Mate group with Syphon compatibility. Free trial version for Mac / Windows.

                  http://z-vector.com/

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                  • Marci
                    Marci last edited by

                    Be careful with Delicode at the moment. Updates aren't forthcoming. I have multiple issues with Z-Vector running on an AMD based Macbook Pro - it simply won't work, and their support simply reply with "we don't support Yosemite at this time". NI-Mate has issues controlling a generation of Kinects because Delicode haven't updated their code in eons, despite their docs saying that this specific version is the best one to use. In all, a few hundred pounds dropped on software that simply doesn't function anymore depending on the age of your hardware and the version of OS you're running, which has caused me to have to rewrite several entire shows that previously depended on their software to interface with multiple Kinect cameras.

                    eMotion isn't licensed for any commercial use, hence you won't see a great deal of progress or support on it either sadly.

                    rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      The guys are Delicode are aware. Ni-Mate V2 is currently with a bunch of beta testers.

                      I can't comment on Z-Vector though. 

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                      • crystalhorizon
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                        Havent updated to Yosemite, because of this. A lot of software I use Isnt approved for Yosemite

                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                        • Unfenswinger
                          Unfenswinger last edited by

                          Fortunately Apple have been ramping up their patent portfolio in the area of devices suspiciously like Kinect and Leap in recent months so with a bit of luck we'll have a native solution before long.

                          [6a0120a5580826970c01b8d12094b0970c-pi](http://www.patentlyapple.com/.a/6a0120a5580826970c01b8d12094b0970c-pi)

                          @unfenswinger
                          Gone all PC...

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                          • Marci
                            Marci last edited by

                            I wouldn't be quite so irked by it all if Delicode's site mentioned their compatibility issues, but they simply state 'supports Mac OSX' at '10.7+'. Nowhere do they publically mention Yosemite isn't supported. Re: NI-Mate - several conversations with DC about it a while ago. Even gave them the single-line change in their source code which would resolve the problems. Was told it would be addressed in a future update. Would be interested to know if any of the testers can get tilt up and tilt down working in NIMate v2 beta with v1 Kinects (xbox360 14wotsit version), or whether they've focused solely on adding support for new Kinects (?)

                            rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              Funny enough I am having a look at it now.

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                              • crystalhorizon
                                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                Graham is that Windows?

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                                • Marci
                                  Marci last edited by

                                  I'd say so... can't test a Kinect v2 on anything else can you at the moment??

                                  rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
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                                  • Skulpture
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    @feinsinn - yes. And so far so good works on my old kinect sensor but I can't tilt the sensor via the software.

                                    Mac Version coming soon for beta testing. 

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                                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
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                                      eddt_MoT last edited by

                                      @particlep -- where did you download 0.7.6? Their website has only 0.7.1 available...typo? or you got other connects??? 
                                      @particlep and @feinsinn, Got a solution for the render window issue...
                                      I've also emailed the creators with no response BUT I just figured out how to re-enable the render window (still not sure why all of the sudden the particles were not visible...) ..under "debug", uncheck "useFBO", and voila!! ..do you know what "useFBO" or any other "debug" functions mean??? all I know is it means this works BUT makes syphon recorder a white box :(
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                                        jonnyrodgers75 last edited by

                                        Thanks everyone for this discussion of eMotion. Especially to @particlep for your tutorial videos. I'm new to the program. I'm a musician who plays Tuned Glass. I'll be using eMotion with the Leap Motion to capture my hand data and create visual effects during live performance. Any of you have answers to these questions? 1. Is there a way to to save settings in the Current Tool Options? Every time the program closes or crashes I have to rebuild my preferred tool parameters from the default parameters. The same thing happens with window configuration preferences. 2. Actions or scripts that "clear the current layer" frequently crash eMotion. With a 99,999 particle limit, it needs to be cleared frequently. Have any of you solved this problem? A "fade out and reset" script was suggested above. 3. Though Leap Motion is set to operate with programs running in the background, eMotion seems to lose communication with the Leap Motion if eMotion is running in the background. Any solutions? 4. I have eMotion version 0.7.7 Is there a Mac OS version that this version of eMotion is optimized for? I am using a Macbook Pro Mavericks, 10.9.5 And my Leap Motion is updated to the latest version.

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                                          jonnyrodgers75 last edited by

                                          Brief update per my inquiry above:

                                          The "fade out and reset" script is a great way to avoid crashes when clearing a layer.
                                          Has anyone figured out how to get the Leap Motion controller and eMotion to communicate with each other when a different app (in my case, Ableton) is in focus?  Anytime an app other than eMotion is in focus eMotion stops communicating with Leap Motion.  Checking "Allow background apps" in the Leap Motion settings does not remedy the problem.
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                                          • particlep
                                            particlep last edited by

                                            e motion is working again for me.

                                            since january the render window had been white and not usable.  i've had time out from e motion.
                                            using the download link featured in a post from january, i downloaded the latest version and all is now good.
                                            once again i can return to my experiemntation.

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