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    • mark
      mark @triggwatson last edited by mark

      @triggwatson said:

      I'm having issues getting the OBS Virtual Cam to display the feed coming from Syphon Virtual Cam.

      Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I was able to reproduce this with the latest version of OBS.

      You can read more (and find a workaround) in this forum post about this issue, which I've just posted because of your issue.

      Best Wishes,
      Mark

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        Weston @GertjanB last edited by

        @gertjanb @Woland @Michel came here to say I've been experiencing this exact random graphics freezing problem on my 2017 macbook pro(mojave). While admittedly I did have chrome running in the background for other reasons, my freezes happened during an isadora -> syphon virtual webcam -> zoom workflow.  


        MacBook Pro 15" 2017 | Mojave 10.14.6
        2.8 Ghz Intel Core i7 | 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 | Radeon Pro 560 4GB

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        • mark
          mark last edited by

          @triggwatson said:

          I'm having issues getting the OBS Virtual Cam to display the feed coming from Syphon Virtual Cam.

          Here is an updated version of Syphon Virtual Webcam that works with both the old driver and the new driver included with OBS 26.1. Please give it a try and let me know if it solves your issue. (That is, using OBS's driver, not the workaround one I mentioned to you before.)

          syphon-virtual-webcam-v0.9.6.zip

          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • Kathmandale
            Kathmandale @Weston last edited by

            @weston @GertjanB @Woland @Michel I've had a similar thing, not using chrome but as @Weston said it was in an Izzy - SVWC - Zoom workflow. It happened a couple of times a little while ago but hasn't happened for ages. I suspected it was more of a zoom issue and had been fixed with one of their updates, I didn't report it sorry as I couldn't pin down.

            It was a very strange thing, the whole screen would freeze up and stay frozen for a little while as the fans went full throttle, audio would carry on as normal but the machine seemed otherwise unresponsive. After a short time the screen would un-freeze and then, certainly in zoom, seem to play back the missing minutes at a very fast speed until the video caught up with the sound. Full on VHS fast-forward. I thought it was more zoom related as I couldn't imagine that sort of behaviour happening locally. This was on my mac (as in my tag line).

            It's not done it for a few months now despite having the same set up on numerous occasions. I had a feeling it might happen if I was turning on or off or switching the syphon feed, showing/hiding stages, changing back to non-virtual camera in zoom, something like that. The couple of times it did it I was always quite near an event and didn't have much time to troubleshoot so I've not actively tried to re-create the problem, but I can give it a go.

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            Gigabyte Brix Windows 10 with 32GB, i7-6700 quad core, 4GB GeForce GTX 950 - Izzy 3.0.8
            Based in Manchester, UK.

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            • jfg
              jfg @mark last edited by

              @mark

              With a simple configuration (Syphon server>Syphon-Virtual-Webcam > Isadora Input) the new syphon-virtual-webcam works well for me in b29 and b41. In b38 I cannot see the picture in the Live Capture Settings window (Icon and Preview Window) but I get the picture in the Video Input and in the stage.

              best

              Jean-François 

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              - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
              Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
              - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

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              • GertjanB
                GertjanB Beta Platinum last edited by

                Good news,

                I just had a full day of very long only meetings, in google meet (chrome) and zoom. (one time even 2 meetings at the same time meet & zoom)

                I did all the meetings trough Isadora and syphon virtual webcam (also because I have made a handy tool with the buffer and a random value player so it looks like I'm present)

                And I didn't have any crashes or freezes. (after now 10h).

                www.gertjanbiasino.be

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                • mark
                  mark @jfg last edited by mark

                  @jfg

                  Thanks for testing, but don't worry about b38. I tested in 3.0.7 and the latest beta (b44) and Isadora accepts the virtual webcam fine. 

                  For the benefit of those new to Isadora: because Isadora accepts Syphon natively, there is no reason to use Syphon Virtual Webcam as an input to Isadora. You should just use the Syphon Receiver actor to receive the signal directly.

                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • dbini
                    dbini @mark last edited by

                    hello everyone, I've been pushing Syphon Virtual Webcam pretty hard today and had a couple of freezes. i'm running video out of Isadora thru SVW into OBS.Ninja in Chrome. twice today the image froze up at my end and the people on the other end of Ninja said that there was a message from SVW on their screen. I closed SVW and the whole computer froze up and needed hard rebooting. same thing both times (i didn't have time to wait to see if it would come back to life on its own)
                    its the latest version of SVW from the plugins page on my MacBook Pro running 10.13.6.

                    John Collingswood
                    taikabox.com
                    2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                    plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                    • mark
                      mark @dbini last edited by

                      @dbini said:

                      i'm running video out of Isadora thru SVW into OBS.Ninja in Chrome. twice today the image froze up at my end and the people on the other end of Ninja said that there was a message from SVW on their screen

                      OK. I've never worked with Ninja, so we can give this a try.

                      Importance Questions: Please Answer in your reply!

                      Do you have OBS v26.1 or later installed on your computer?

                      What was the resolution of the source image?

                      And what message did SVW display exactly? It doesn't display a message... the only thing it will do is to show the "test pattern" screen if the connection drops. Is that what they mean?

                      Best Wishes,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                      • dbini
                        dbini @mark last edited by

                        @mark

                        hi Mark,

                        i have OBS v23.1 installed, but probably installed v26 last Summer, and then uninstalled it and reverted to v23 when i discovered i couldn't use a Ninja link as a browser source. i usually use AppZapper to remove stuff, but it may have left something behind.

                        source image is 1280x800 to match the projectors we're using.

                        the Hungarian company said that they got a message onscreen saying something like Syphon Virtual Webcam has stopped working. it was a bit difficult to tell what was going on at the time because of the video freezing and me trying to work out what was going on. the message may have been generated by Ninja.

                        cheers,

                        john

                        John Collingswood
                        taikabox.com
                        2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                        plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                        • mark
                          mark @dbini last edited by mark

                          @dbini

                          i usually use AppZapper to remove stuff, but it may have left something behind.

                           It may not know about the location of the driver. It lives at

                          /Library/CoreMediaIO/Plug-Ins/DAL/

                          in any case, the v0.9.6 version of Syphon Virtual Webcam works with both the old driver and the new one from OBS 26.1. But if you really want to downgrade, then

                          • quit everything
                          • go to /Library/CoreMediaIO/Plug-Ins/DAL/
                          • delete obs-mac-virtualcam.plugin
                          • and restart Syphon Virtual Webcam

                          In any case, thanks for the info. I'm a bit slammed at the moment, but I will see what I can find out as soon as I can.

                          Best Wishes,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                          • dbini
                            dbini @mark last edited by

                            @mark
                            i fixed another issue, which means i can use my iMac instead of my Macbook for this project - today, with the same setup on the iMac, SVW has been stable. thanks for the advice. i'll try it on my laptop at some point and report back.

                            John Collingswood
                            taikabox.com
                            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                            • RWillats
                              RWillats @dbini last edited by

                              It's been a while since I've used Syphon, but I've used it successfully in the past. I just tried to get it up and going, but Zoom didn't recognize it. I followed the steps above to uninstall everything and started from scratch. 

                              Now, when I try to open Syphon (to then re-install the OBS Virtual Cam), the icon appears on the dock, but the actual window doesn't appear. If I go to help>install OBS Virtual Camera Plugin it waits and then closes the Syphon app. I can't get any further. Any ideas? 

                              Best,

                              Rory

                              MacBook Pro M1, 2020 Sonoma 14.5; Zoom 6.0.11

                              MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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                              • Woland
                                Woland Tech Staff @RWillats last edited by

                                @rwillats

                                It might not be compatible with macOS Sonoma

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                                • RWillats
                                  RWillats @Woland last edited by

                                  @woland I feared this might be the case

                                  MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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                                    Woland Tech Staff @RWillats last edited by Woland

                                    @rwillats said:

                                    @woland I feared this might be the case

                                    Microsoft: If someone makes a program for our OS, it should be able to run forever.

                                    Apple: Let's break everything every single year. Lol 😂

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                                    • RWillats
                                      RWillats @Woland last edited by RWillats

                                      @woland Hahahaha 

                                      and getting NDI into zoom is still really pricey--I think I might just be stuck with this one

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                                      • Woland
                                        Woland Tech Staff @RWillats last edited by

                                        @rwillats

                                        You could check and see if OBS's actual virtual webcam plugin for OBS has been updated to support Sonoma. You should be able to get Isadora or NDI output into OBS. That might be a path forward.

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                                        • RWillats
                                          RWillats @Woland last edited by

                                          @woland

                                          Appears to be a solution here: https://support.apple.com/en-u...

                                          I'll be checking it out tomorrow

                                          MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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                                          • RWillats
                                            RWillats @RWillats last edited by

                                            @rwillats

                                            It may still be a solution, but not for me. I restored the legacy camera settings but no luck

                                            MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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