What USB3 controller do you have? I know there are quite a few chips that do not really support the full bandwidth. Are you using a laptop? Do you have access to a desktop machine with a separate usb3 PCIE card. For high bandwidth applications these seem to be the only useable devices. There is a pretty good list of USB3 laptops that have full bandwidth controllers here http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4277&p=148443&hilit=usb+3#p148443

It is for blackmagic compatibility, but the requirement is pretty simple, just full bandwidth and high performance. So far for me USB3 has been a little unreliable, (well not really but there are a lot of crappy controllers out there, including ones integrated into many motherboards. At any rate USB 3 has some pretty debilitating limitations on cable length (in my mind this kills the idea of a PTZ as you can only be a few meters away from the port for high bandwidth uses like HD video, as you could probably just reach and move the camera anyway). Take a look at something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-Zoom-High-Speed-1080P-HD-SDI-PTZ-Dome-Camera-IR-60m-1-2-7-CMOS-Auto-Focus-/261447245257?pt=US_Security_Cameras&hash=item3cdf785dc9 It has a similar specs (possible the same sensor by the looks of it) and is HDSDI so easy cheap and long connections between camera and computer and SDi capture boxes are cheap.

Hi Jamie - thank you for this - I developed this piece at Space studios in your workshop ... a while back and now it's time to realise it on a bigger scale!

My mixing desk is analog, and I would only have one mixed input into my laptop. Best wishes Rita

As far as I know there is no such thing as a thunderbolt hub and never will be. The architecture does not support it. There are thunderbolt breakout boxes that provide a monitor out, usb3 ethernet and other things depending on the model, but they are not hubs, they have a passthrough connection only.

I use a fireface, they are great, go for the UCX model, it allows OSC control of the hardware mixer as well as having eq and compression on the input (great for cleaning signals before they come into software without using plugins). The USB version also means you don't lose a thunderbolt port for a thunderbolt to firewire adaptor if you don't get a thunderbolt breakout with firewire. If you get a retina top of the line macbook you will have 2 thunderbolt ports and one HDMI, you can have 2 capture boxes (these do not have thunderbolt pass through) and still have a monitor out as well as having the laptop screen for a control screen. The thunderbolt breakouts have a thunderbolt pass through and allow a capture box (the blackmagic ones do not have pass through) and a monitor output from the same port. how many individual inputs and outputs do you want simultaneously? Do you use a triple head to go? I use enttec devices, I like them but I know there are cheaper dongles you can buy, somewhere on the forum there is a list I think? If you don't use a thunderbolt breakout box kannex has a USB3 ethernet adaptor that is gigabit, if you get a good USB3 hub you can have this and the fireface and a few other peripherals (not a kinect but a DMX out for sure) on the same USB port. Ethernet will be a lot better than wifi and the apple adaptors are not gigabit, only 10/100. As Isadora turns to GPU processing make sure you get the model with the best GFX card (the 2 gig is quite powerful). Overall the latency of thunderbolt is non existent, it is basically a PCI connection on a string, so dont worry, there is a lot of bandwidth. Fred

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thanks Jamie - that looks like a possibility. I wonder if its possible to use 6 in the same space as different devices....

john

No problem.

@DusX

Thanks, but I already checked after reading your advice on the Spout forum. There's nothing I can do in my old yet up-to-date BIOS...

I have a Mac Pro 2013 (8 core / D700s) and have tested 6 x 1080 60p outputs using 5 x active single-link DVI adapters and the HDMI out (only had 5 adapters available). Single-link active adapters do not require USB power and can typically got for less than US$35, I have the Sapphire ones. Also waiting on some Startech DVI adapters (actually short cables) that are supposed to be Dual-link with out USB power for around the same price. Cheers Tom

@DMacur,

Well, not sure how this could have gone back to that old behavior, but please file a bug report and we'll get on it. Best Wishes, Mark

Dear @thesadfox,

This issue should be fixed in the pre-release. You don't need to have a 2.0 license to get at this fix, nor do you need to re-register. You just need to download the 2.0 version and install.

However for early adopters: if you see this, please wait for 2.0.0b3. There are several important fixes coming, and I'm building it right now. (3:18pm Berlin time, August 29)

Best,
Mark

Thank You guys - yes indeed the budget is the largest factor - 800€ for a mac mini was to much it has to be something like 500 - 600€...

it will run in a installation 10h/day -> 7 days/week and yes should be as much silence as possible...

i thought a shuttle pc with two graficcards and 1 ssd? - which graficcards? which motherboard / processor?
ciao Bodo

Dear All,

If you download the 2.0 pre-release, it will solve this problem with retina Mac Book Pros and the internal camera. You can use the pre-release even if you haven't purchased the upgrade through our early adopters program -- you just won't have access to the 2.0 features. Best Wishes, Mark

Hi Sammy,
Can you drop a quick summary of your discoveries here, at the end of this post? Just to make it easier to people to grab the conclusion you came to.
I have also had excellent results with a 2012 Mac MIni outputting HDMI 3D video projections, (double-HD top/bottom video streams). When we initially researched the project, Apple infact advised us we couldnt get the results that we did in the end actually achieve from the mac mini. It was impressive. And affordable!
Jamie

Apologies I thought the video capture was also AVF.

@Fred Thanks a lot for your answer, it's more clear to me now !

I will have a look on BM UltraStudio Express then, instead of Intensity family because SDI connectors can be useful thereafter. Thanks again. Best. Clement

Hi Craig, I dont know of anything commercially available yet. But no doubt at least ten different people are currently working on it! ;) 
Rob Scharein can probably write an app for this. Are you in Vancouver? As per Rainbow's comment.. would be great if your choreographer could offer a little budget for a custom solution maybe?
Jamie

Thanks for the advice. The problem is that I need the camera to stand alone, to be angled correctly and possibly zoom out. Will the cable from the camera to the laptop be long enough? Will it be possible to angle the webcam? And zoom?

Thanks Unfenswinger. I found some old stock at a dealer today, but no i7's available. I ended up with a 2012 i5 2.5 GHz, 8 gigs of RAM and a 256 SSD. I have Mavericks OSX installed. It's a huge step up from my late 2009 MacBook Pro.

At least I'll be able to add more RAM and switch out the hard drive.

Hello All,

iam planing an upcomming multichannel videoi/audio- installation with 9-10 full HD projections (each has sound)...i would like to buy 2 macpro 2013 (each has to run 4-5 1920x1080 pro res 422 mov.files and audi via motu traveler) - all has to run in sync as a loop (MTC movie locker) -crossfades to other 4-5 mov.files should be possible without glitches (but not nessesary until now) i would go for thunderbold to VGA adaptation as i have heard than no activ dvi adapter are nessesary and i can just run 4-5 times fullhd bei vga signal out of one machine.... iam wondering if there is anybody which has experience with a simlar setup and can give me some hints for the best configurated macpro which fits my budget of round aboute 8000.00€ - i would use the new izzy 2 beta with the new movie player gpu possibilites
in this case for instance make it more sense to buy a machine with just a quad core processor but the 3gb graphiccards or better to go for the 6 core with just 2gb graficcard and maybe more ram instead? ...and so on (256gb ssd is enough)

thanks in advanced
ciao Bodo

Thanks guys, my idea for now was to run all my patches on my laptop (the stuff I do seems to run fine on my 4 years old macbook pro) and then use this new pc to do mostly capturing and assembling in Final Cut / After Effect. I'm not sure if a GFX card is really important for this or if I could just spend my money on the Intensity and then get a GFX card if I start doing real time video on this new PC.  If FC and AE don't rely much on the Graphic Card but mostly have to do with RAM and CPU then it might be a good idea to hold on until I really need one.